You shared music? now you owe $1.92 million to us.

**FSANE** · 06-18-2009, 09:15 PM

RIAA are a bunch of leeches.

Court orders Jammie Thomas to pay RIAA $1.92 million

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-102...g=2547-1_3-0-5

**ss~zoso~ss** · 06-18-2009, 09:22 PM

sux for her!

1,700 songs aint nothin

**FSANE** · 06-19-2009, 12:38 AM

and they only charged her for 24 songs

**JoshieDoom** · 06-19-2009, 01:41 AM

This is why I love/hate america..

**nhraformula** · 06-19-2009, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by FSANE

RIAA are a bunch of leeches.

Court orders Jammie Thomas to pay RIAA $1.92 million

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-102...g=2547-1_3-0-5

And the people stealing music are upstanding members of society?
They out right broke copyright laws.

**third_shift|studios** · 06-19-2009, 03:31 AM

If I were her, I would actually kill myself after that trial.

**OreoLt1** · 06-19-2009, 05:49 AM

The whole case is funny though because both parties know not a cent just about is going to get paid! Why charge one if you can't charge all offenders?

Just another lost cause to add to the bin.

**zero_proto** · 06-19-2009, 09:57 AM

read the whole thing, she can settle for way less than that, and the companies are willing to let her, but still would cost her over 100 grand

**shady milkman** · 06-19-2009, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by FSANE

RIAA are a bunch of leeches.

Court orders Jammie Thomas to pay RIAA $1.92 million

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-102...g=2547-1_3-0-5

bunch of leeches??

F her for stealing music..then distributing it across the net... she got what she deserves..i used to D/L music..then realized how stupid it was and wrong...i have a job..so i can fork over 12 bucks to get a cd...

**Crimson Sin** · 06-19-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

bunch of leeches??

F her for stealing music..then distributing it across the net... she got what she deserves..i used to D/L music..then realized how stupid it was and wrong...i have a job..so i can fork over 12 bucks to get a cd...

I'm with you on this one Shady.. Me and my son had this exact conversation..
I told him.. next time you volunteer to work a few days a week for free for say Oh four months... and everyone that shares your music does the same.. I will agree with you that it should be free...Oddly, not one of those kids has volunteered to work for free.. Damn strange that.

**jknelms** · 06-19-2009, 10:58 AM

well, there is a slight difference between copyright infringement and stealing music.

**shady milkman** · 06-19-2009, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by jknelms

well, there is a slight difference between copyright infringement and stealing music.

its all stealing music..any way you look at it...you use music for anything or sound similar to ..without paying...your stealing

**jknelms** · 06-19-2009, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

its all stealing music..any way you look at it...you use music for anything or sound similar to ..without paying...your stealing

well, i understand, that is a personal take on the issue. and i can see how many come to that conclusion.

**shady milkman** · 06-19-2009, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by jknelms

well, i understand, that is a personal take on the issue. and i can see how many come to that conclusion.

and what is your opinion ?

**jknelms** · 06-19-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

and what is your opinion ?

well, as you can probably tell, i don't consider it stealing. it's copyright infringement. if she stole it, it would no longer exist in it's original place - it would be in her possession, and she'd have control over the property. if she takes a cd from the store...that is stealing, it no longer exist in it's original place. but this is copyright infringement...she copied the music to her computer, but the original file still exist...from where ever she got it from. still a crime, because there's a law against it.

in my mind, it's like taking a picture of a painting in a museum (not sure if that's illegal?)...but that would be a copyright infringement. stealing it would be that she actually stole the painting.

maybe it's a flawed analogy, but that's how i see it.

**1MileCrash** · 06-19-2009, 11:14 AM

that's way past excessive. as someone else said this is one of those things that i have come to hate about the U.S. you feel even the least bit slighted all you have to do is sue and you'll end up with hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in compensation for something dumb as hell.

**shady milkman** · 06-19-2009, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by jknelms

well, as you can probably tell, i don't consider it stealing. it's copyright infringement. if she stole it, it would no longer exist in it's original place - it would be in her possession, and she'd have control over the property. if she takes a cd from the store...that is stealing, it no longer exist in it's original place. but this is copyright infringement...she copied the music to her computer, but the original file still exist...from where ever she got it from. still a crime, because there's a law against it.

in my mind, it's like taking a picture of a painting in a museum (not sure if that's illegal?)...but that would be a copyright infringement. stealing it would be that she actually stole the painting.

maybe it's a flawed analogy, but that's how i see it.

makes sense..but you can steal intellectual property also . The true file is never sold..but it is duplicated and sold..so if you copy even a duplicate without permission you are still stealing that original file but as you said its all opinion anyways

**02Sweet** · 06-19-2009, 11:32 AM

The biggest issue I have is, is it stealing if the song you are "stealing"/downloading played on the radio? Isn't it the same as hitting record on your old cassette boombox when the new pearl jam song came out?

**Spaz** · 06-19-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by jknelms

well, as you can probably tell, i don't consider it stealing. it's copyright infringement. if she stole it, it would no longer exist in it's original place - it would be in her possession, and she'd have control over the property. if she takes a cd from the store...that is stealing, it no longer exist in it's original place. but this is copyright infringement...she copied the music to her computer, but the original file still exist...from where ever she got it from. still a crime, because there's a law against it.

in my mind, it's like taking a picture of a painting in a museum (not sure if that's illegal?)...but that would be a copyright infringement. stealing it would be that she actually stole the painting.

maybe it's a flawed analogy, but that's how i see it.

she is stealing... royalties...

**jknelms** · 06-19-2009, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

makes sense..but you can steal intellectual property also . The true file is never sold..but it is duplicated and sold..so if you copy even a duplicate without permission you are still stealing that original file but as you said its all opinion anyways

you're right about the intellectual property, though. but...if we always give credit to the artist and record company...that kind of defeats that idea. since we never claim the music as "our's."

idk, maybe something to it.