Warning to those who weld!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**KnightmareWS6** · 04-11-2010, 08:02 PM

How many of you guys out there use brake parts cleaner to clean your engine bay and undercarriage? I know I use the stuff all the time. My dad even buys it by the case to use on his 2nd gen. T/As. I knew the fumes from it could mess you up but I didnt know it could kill you like this. Read this article!!!! It could save your life.
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

**86 IROC-Z** · 04-11-2010, 08:04 PM

I don't weld, tl;dr, cliffs?

**Y2KPewterSS** · 04-11-2010, 08:11 PM

Damn, my dad is a welder, has been for 35-40 years now. I am gonna remind him of this.

**5.0THIS** · 04-11-2010, 11:54 PM

I weld a fair bit. Havent had any such issues so far, but that's good info to read to keep you on your toes about safety.

**Grimpala** · 04-12-2010, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by KnightmareWS6

How many of you guys out there use brake parts cleaner to clean your engine bay and undercarriage? I know I use the stuff all the time. My dad even buys it by the case to use on his 2nd gen. T/As. I knew the fumes from it could mess you up but I didnt know it could kill you like this. Read this article!!!! It could save your life.
http://www.brewracingframes.com/id75.htm

You watch Gearz?

**cammed goat** · 04-12-2010, 07:15 AM

Whether you weld, or in the HVAC field, you deal with phosgene gas. IT IS NO JOKE!!

**HOBS** · 04-12-2010, 07:27 AM

Worth noting not all brake cleaners contain tetrachloroethylene. I used brake clean all the time to clean parts before I welded them but just happened to luck out that the brake clean I used didnt have tetrachloroethylene. Shit house luck ftw.

**cammed goat** · 04-12-2010, 07:30 AM

This is the reason why the company I work for has done away with the brand they have used. They are switching to a different type thay doesn't have tetrachloroethylene.

**KnightmareWS6** · 04-12-2010, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Grimpala

You watch Gearz?

Yea. I know they had an episode on it but I must have missed it.

Originally Posted by cammed goat

This is the reason why the company I work for has done away with the brand they have used. They are switching to a different type thay doesn't have tetrachloroethylene.

I will definitely be changing brands now, lol.

**Tonik** · 04-12-2010, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z

I don't weld, tl;dr, cliffs?

Guy almost died from going over a little brake cleaner with a torch while welding. The gas produced is lethal in very small amounts.

**SandmanWs7** · 04-12-2010, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z

I don't weld, tl;dr, cliffs?

Brake clean +

with argon gas=

**KnightmareWS6** · 04-12-2010, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by Tonik

Guy almost died from going over a little brake cleaner with a torch while welding. The gas produced is lethal in very small amounts.

Originally Posted by SandmanWs7

Brake clean +

with argon gas=

What they said. It's just like if you mix the wrong household cleaners. Bad chemical reactions make toxic gasses that are lethal.

**suede** · 04-12-2010, 12:08 PM

wow had no clue it was that serious of shit

**86 IROC-Z** · 04-12-2010, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Tonik

Guy almost died from going over a little brake cleaner with a torch while welding. The gas produced is lethal in very small amounts.

Originally Posted by SandmanWs7

Brake clean +

with argon gas=

Originally Posted by KnightmareWS6

What they said. It's just like if you mix the wrong household cleaners. Bad chemical reactions make toxic gasses that are lethal.

Thanks

My first thought was that the gas created was causing explosions when it was around the flame of the welder.

**big hammer** · 04-12-2010, 02:41 PM

i've actually done this a lot with no ill effects AHHHHHHH MOTHER FUCKING CORNBREAD

**KnightmareWS6** · 04-12-2010, 05:44 PM

Well, if it's given enough time to evaporate, then it porbably wont have any ill effects. But if there is visible bpc on whatever you're welding and you put the flame to it, then you're pretty much screwed.

**310stanger** · 04-12-2010, 08:23 PM

This is why MOST brake cleaners are non-chlorinated. I don't know why they just dont all go that way. Would save a lot of cases like this....

**JonB** · 04-12-2010, 08:42 PM

Good info to know.

On a side note why in the hell did the guy wait 9 days to go the the hospital with all the trouble he was having. Don't get me wrong I'm not one for doctors/hospitals but when you have the symptoms he had your a tard for not getting yourself checked out.

**KnightmareWS6** · 04-13-2010, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by JonB

On a side note why in the hell did the guy wait 9 days to go the the hospital with all the trouble he was having. Don't get me wrong I'm not one for doctors/hospitals but when you have the symptoms he had your a tard for not getting yourself checked out.

Those were my same thoughts as I read the article the first time. You would think that with symtoms that serious, he would have realised that it wasnt just the flu or something like that.