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    understood where dad and grandpa were coming from today

    My dad and grandpa always worked on their own cars. I remember them bitching about how big of a pain is was to work on "new" cars. That was in the 70's and 80's. The wifes new Dodge Journey needed washer fluid today so as I was putting that in I was really looking it over and just shaking my head. The oil filter is on the top of the motor and it isn't a traditional type filter. It's open element and fits into it's own little compartment. Then I'm looking at what it's going to take to do a plug change......I never did lay eyes on the plugs. What a bitch that's going to be at some point. I just looked around in there a couple minutes but it looks like some shit is gonna have to come off the motor to do a plug change. I was just looking at it thinking how different the engines are now versus what they were when I was in high school and working on my 75 cutlass. I remember sitting under the hood of that car in a rain storm changing a fuel pump that was mounted directly to the side of the block. Wonder what they'll look like when Zach is 40 years old?

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    ^^^The whole engine will get replaced as a unit, like starters and alternators are now. Those used to get rebuilt, not anymore! If the engine gets a misfire, then Bam! new engine. Who knows.

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    Few bolts lines and connectors off comes the intake manifold then bam you have plugs out.
    They rebuild them when found to be cost effective per 70% sheet policy

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    I remember dad teaching me how to rebuild an alternator. Back then an alternator was expensive as hell but you could buy a rebuild kit for just a few bucks. You also didn't just change rotors out.....every shop in town would turn them for like $5 a rotor.

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    Sadly bits cost way too much anymore. They'll cut them for you but it costs more than 5 bucks

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    yeah i remember helping my grandad turn rotors in his shop all the time....I finally found a shop that still has one, ill prob get my R1s turned if need be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikito View Post
    yeah i remember helping my grandad turn rotors in his shop all the time....I finally found a shop that still has one, ill prob get my R1s turned if need be
    rotors are made so thin and cheap I'm not sure you can even turn them anymore.....maybe once.

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    Some you can cut twice if they're a good rotor

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    I always turn mine when I do a brake change. Unless they are too thin then I replace. OEM's I can get several turns out of them. I put a cheap set of autozone rotors on a car one time and they were too thin after one set of pads.

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    Cars are engineered and thoughtout today, years ago they designed a car then tried to figure out how to route the exhaust.

    Today "room" is considered waste in an engine compartment.

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    the engine of the future will go like this:

    ....ctrl + alt + delete to restart the engine

    ....wireless firmware downloads..

    ...emergency shutoff switch in case it gets a virus...

    ...password-protected anti-theft...

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    guaranteed to crash at least once a week...


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    Quote Originally Posted by wileyCoyote View Post
    the engine of the future will go like this:

    ....ctrl + alt + delete to restart the engine

    ....wireless firmware downloads..

    ...emergency shutoff switch in case it gets a virus...

    ...password-protected anti-theft...

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    guaranteed to crash at least once a week...

    So they'll be running Windows.


    That reminds me. What does an air conditioner and a computer have in common?









    Neither work right with windows open.

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    0rion, I remember feeling the same way when I first looked under the hood of my 88 Alfa back in 92. (I had been driving the Chevelle for 7 years at that point) It also occurred to me that you'd practically have to be a magical dwarf to work on it. Talk about compact...

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    I can remember helping my brother work on his '77 Chevy Step-side with a straghit 6. I could stand on the ground between the motor and fender well.

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    I thought maybe you boned your gramma and mom...............again.

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    When buying a car I always look under the hood to see what it will be like to maintain it. Our '12 Challenger has the top mounted canister style oil filter which I will soon be changing for the first time.

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    My friends LT5 had the oil filter that screwed on from the top.....that thing sucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS_Addict View Post
    I thought maybe you boned your gramma and mom...............again.
    I think you have me confused with someone from PA......hey, I hear there's a bondo and primer sale at NAPA this weekend. Might want to touch up your vehicles......even the one's in the yard on blocks.

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    Spaz is from PA

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTP231 View Post
    Spaz is from PA
    I think I already made the point.....you don't have to keep rubbing it in.

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