"Official" Gas Price Bitching Thread!

**RainMan** · 04-11-2006, 05:47 PM

Like the Title says! We just Hit $2.99.99 ($3) a friggin Gallon for 93.

Here in Porta-John (Port St. John). Wife said she saw $3.14 down in Cape Canaveral. . .on the way home from work.

If it hasn't hit you already, it will soon. . .Thoughts, concerns, opinions. . .

Feel free to Scream, Vent, Rant, Bitch, Cry or whatever!...

....Fire in the hole! . . . .That is if the Moderators will allow it!

**thatoneguy12986** · 04-11-2006, 05:51 PM

It's 2.85 or so here for 87 octane. Bullshit if ya ask me. Something has to change.

**MarkuzLS1** · 04-11-2006, 05:54 PM

I blame the W.

**Mr. Luos** · 04-11-2006, 05:55 PM

Filled up on 85 for $2.54 yesterday.

**Bigrus** · 04-11-2006, 05:56 PM

2.80 here for 93....seriously a fucking moped really does not seem that big of a deal.

**jking** · 04-11-2006, 06:05 PM

It's gonna get worse.

Electricity bills are gonna be painful too.

**Motrv8d Steve** · 04-11-2006, 06:06 PM

No. San Diego Co. CA
Cheapest 91 prem. $297 76 Unocal
Highest prem. $3.15 and rising!!!!

76 Unocal
most 91 around town is above $3.00!!!

kinda weird that same brand of gas has the highest on one corner of town and lowest (if ya wanna call it low) just a few miles away.

All's I know is that the gas companies are recording record profits.

**Mr. Luos** · 04-11-2006, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Motrv8d Steve

All's I know is that the gas companies are recording record profits.

Originally Posted by MarkuzLS1

I blame the W.

I am with the Markuz.

**needmorepwr** · 04-11-2006, 06:11 PM

$2.88 for 87

$3.09 for 91

Filled my truck up for $60 yesterday. Thats not much fun.

**Motrv8d Steve** · 04-11-2006, 06:16 PM

Meet the new gay Irishmen in town, Boys!

They're called Ben Dover and Phil McCrevice.
thank you sir may I have another thank you sir may I have another?

thank you sir may I have another thank you sir may I have another?

**third_shift|studios** · 04-11-2006, 06:21 PM

i hate gas too. fucking shit was 3.05!

**oneBADDz** · 04-11-2006, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

Filled up on 85 for $2.54 yesterday.

ummmmmm, so you have a daily driver right. . .right? 85? do they mix real gas with water or what

2.99 9/10 here for premium. The Z is just a weekend car anyways

**Mr. Luos** · 04-11-2006, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by z_driver1

ummmmmm, so you have a daily driver right. . .right? 85? do they mix real gas with water or what

Yeah. 01 Grand Am GT

Doubt the T/A would like 85 octane at 11:1.

**RainMan** · 04-11-2006, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

Yeah. 01 Grand Am GT

Doubt the T/A would like 85 octane at 11:1.

Yea, would prolly

a rod or two

**jking** · 04-11-2006, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by RainMan

If it hasn't hit you already, it will soon. . .Thoughts, concerns, opinions. . .

:

It sucks, but what are you gonna do?

The thing that gets me is that the public response really highlights the lack of understanding by Americans as to how the free market works.

Gasoline and oil are publicly traded commodities where the prices are set by traders. The biggest reason our energy prices are through the roof is the ever strengthing economies in India and China. We outsource our jobs and share technology, and all of the sudden these folks are able to buy cars, install AC units, ect. There is only so much oil drilled and so much gasoline refined, and we are bidding for it on a global market.

It's not the oil companies setting the price. It's the market.

As to the "record profits" claim, that's just common sense.

They still operate on roughly the same profit margin that they usually do, but their cost of crude is going up, so obvioulsy their profits will increase.

They operate on roughly a 9% profit margin.

For simplicitiy's sake, lets say that in 2004, it cost them 1.50 to produce a gallon of gas. That takes into account the price of crude, transportation, labor, energy spent in the refining process, ect.

At a 9% margin, they are making 13.5 cents per gallon.

Say with the increased prices in crude, transportation, labor, energy, ect, in 2006 it cost them 2.00 to produce a gallon of gas.

At a 9% margin, they are now making 18 cents per gallon.

They are not charging any more for their services, they are just passing on their operating expense.

If you want to start putting a dent in the price of gas, start with the .50 or so tax that is built into every gallon.

NOW...

Say congress hits them with a "windfall profit tax", as some people are in favor of.

Saying that corporations and business pay taxes is a myth. They simply incorporate their tax bill into their cost of production, and pass it on to you. The cost of gas goes up more.

It's a way for government to tax you without you realizing it.

**jking** · 04-11-2006, 07:11 PM

The two best ways to handle this are-

1. Drill more of our own oil.

2. Alternative energy sources.

**Danger731** · 04-11-2006, 07:15 PM

where in san diego is it cheaper than 2.95 for 91 ?

**Danger731** · 04-11-2006, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Motrv8d Steve

No. San Diego Co. CA
Cheapest 91 prem. $297 76 Unocal
Highest prem. $3.15 and rising!!!!

76 Unocal
most 91 around town is above $3.00!!!

kinda weird that same brand of gas has the highest on one corner of town and lowest (if ya wanna call it low) just a few miles away.

All's I know is that the gas companies are recording record profits.

where ? where ?

**Modulistic** · 04-11-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by jking

The two best ways to handle this are-

1. Drill more of our own oil.

2. Alternative energy sources.

Dont make them think, jason, they will turn on you.

**NICKLE57** · 04-12-2006, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by jking

It sucks, but what are you gonna do?

It's not the oil companies setting the price. It's the market.

Yes and No. If it was all about traders and the market then you wouldn't have quotes from big oil like these.

From a few years back:
"New goverment regulations on cleaner burning fuel will cause the price of gas to rise as Oil companies have to add MTBE to fuel."

Today

"New goverment restrictions on the use of MTBE will cause the price of gas to rise as Oil companies are forced to stop using the additive. This will reduce the nations gasoline supply by 145,000 barrels a day"

So it goes up because they have to use it and it goes up cause they can not use it. Frankly I don't think there is an answer. We have people in Washington that are sleeping with the oil companies and they are going to keep their profits and money one way or the other. Regardless of what we do.

What I would like to see is something like the XPrize ($10,000,000) that was given to some goofy spaceship plane to go to the first company that can produce a gas burning engine that can get 150MPG. I am not talking some goofy engine that cost 100,000 bucks either. An engine that can easily be mass produced

Or maybe they could allow me to buy a diesel smart car that can be easily gotten in Canada. 80MPG doesn't sound to bad.