no head gasket

**V8MUSCLE** · 03-02-2010, 10:09 AM

so.... working on my header swap i managed to break off a bolt in the head... the far back bolt was already broken off, i hadnt touched that one... on the front bolt i broke 2 easy outs trying to get it out... and managed to fuck up the area around the bolt... the rear i managed to break my last easy out, 3 bits, and then managed to break the bolt off a little further inside the head...

said fuck it and put the headers on anyway 2 bolts shy. they leaked so i threw some of that high temp voodoo shit on it and managed to fix it, atleast temporally. it only has to hold till next winter when i do a H/C/I...

a buddy of mine was replacing the head on his camry (beater car), forgot to put the head gasket on. i showed up just after he finished putting all the covers on and hooking the intake up and found a brand new headgasket sitting in the passenger seat, with the old one in the floorboard. well, he starts it and it runs fine... hes put about 1k miles on it and hasnt had the first problem yet.

how is it i can have such shitty luck and he can wallow in horse shit and come out smelling like a rose...

**86 IROC-Z** · 03-02-2010, 10:11 AM

1,000 miles without a head gasket?

Mind = shat on, ran over, then blown.

**Aetos** · 03-02-2010, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z

1,000 miles without a head gasket?

Mind = shat on, ran over, then blown.

you have lots of experience with head gaskets...

**V8MUSCLE** · 03-02-2010, 10:15 AM

my only thought is hes lying to me and bought or had another gasket. the one in the seat was an extra... but he swears...

**third_shift|studios** · 03-02-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by V8MUSCLE

how is it i can have such shitty luck and he can wallow in horse shit and come out smelling like a rose...

probably dumb luck. not like his car is churning as much power either.

**LSCyaL8R** · 03-02-2010, 10:53 AM

my Saturn desperately needs a valve cover gasket. I knew this last summer but didnt' do anything.... now I am paying the price by smelling oil all the freakin time. It has some sort of oil jet in the valve cover by the number 1 and 2 cylinders so the first sign of a bad VC gasket is oil in the plug wells.... saw that last year.... now it's seeping through the sides and coating the whole block and burning off the exhaust manifold..... it's only 31 bucks but it's freezing out so i really don't want to do it. That and it's frightening to think that the saturn VC bolts only torque to 6 in-lb. yes... INCH pounds..... they are designed to snap if any more force is applied. So i need a good in-lb torque wrench like yesterday. Good news is that with that little force I should be able to take em out with my pinkie nail.

**310stanger** · 03-02-2010, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

probably dumb luck. not like his car is churning as much power either.

what the heck does horsepower have to do with an engine running without a head gasket? Please read a book about how an engine works at your earliest convenience. Ever hear of compression bro? lol

**Hi-Po** · 03-02-2010, 08:31 PM

**Smittro** · 03-02-2010, 09:01 PM

No gasket? I read that right yes? That should put his compression somewhere near "pings like a bish!"

wow

**blackSS01** · 03-02-2010, 10:18 PM

I'm not near as smart as a lot of other members but that blows my mind!! Only thing I could think of is the deck of the block and the surface of the head are that square (flat) that they bolt tightly together. Thats a crazy story to say the least. If I'm wrong, go ahead and chime in and enlighten me

**SHines-IT** · 03-02-2010, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by blackSS01

I'm not near as smart as a lot of other members but that blows my mind!! Only thing I could think of is the deck of the block and the surface of the head are that square (flat) that they bolt tightly together. Thats a crazy story to say the least. If I'm wrong, go ahead and chime in and enlighten me

**blackSS01** · 03-02-2010, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by SHines-IT

What the hell does that smiliey mean.....

Always wondered and nows a good time to ask

**wheeliE-maxx** · 03-02-2010, 11:05 PM

it's slash from Guns N Roses, why it's called : slash :

**98Hardtop** · 03-03-2010, 06:18 AM

We had a customer bring their Kia spectra in for an overheating issue with 15k on it and we found there was no headgasket from the factory. Took a pic and sent it to our Rep who couldn't believe it.

**DIRTY JERZY** · 03-03-2010, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by LSCyaL8R

my Saturn desperately needs a valve cover gasket. I knew this last summer but didnt' do anything.... now I am paying the price by smelling oil all the freakin time. It has some sort of oil jet in the valve cover by the number 1 and 2 cylinders so the first sign of a bad VC gasket is oil in the plug wells.... saw that last year.... now it's seeping through the sides and coating the whole block and burning off the exhaust manifold..... it's only 31 bucks but it's freezing out so i really don't want to do it. That and it's frightening to think that the saturn VC bolts only torque to 6 in-lb. yes... INCH pounds..... they are designed to snap if any more force is applied. So i need a good in-lb torque wrench like yesterday. Good news is that with that little force I should be able to take em out with my pinkie nail.

They all leak there, its a quick fix, just dont over tighten the bolts or you will push the gasket out and it will leak worse

**86 IROC-Z** · 03-03-2010, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by Aetos

you have lots of experience with head gaskets...

Originally Posted by 310stanger

what the heck does horsepower have to do with an engine running without a head gasket? Please read a book about how an engine works at your earliest convenience. Ever hear of compression bro? lol

Don't be too hard on him, he's not a mechanic, he just makes stickers.

And also, he's short.

**LSCyaL8R** · 03-03-2010, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by DIRTY JERZY

They all leak there, its a quick fix, just dont over tighten the bolts or you will push the gasket out and it will leak worse

yeah my source for the torque spec was instructables and that guy was apparently a genius.... the ACTUAL torque spec is more like 86 in-lbs now to get a torque wrench that can measure that low. Everything at my local parts place starts at like 10lb ft

**DIRTY JERZY** · 03-03-2010, 12:53 PM

you need a torque wrench that only mesures inch pounds I think they are only avalible with 1/4 in drive

**GTP231** · 03-03-2010, 02:03 PM

That Camry 4 banger will grenade from oil sludging before the lack of gasket takes affect

**bigrondownhiller** · 03-03-2010, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by LSCyaL8R

yeah my source for the torque spec was instructables and that guy was apparently a genius.... the ACTUAL torque spec is more like 86 in-lbs now to get a torque wrench that can measure that low. Everything at my local parts place starts at like 10lb ft

Sears sells them. You can just do it by feel.