New mustang(2011) due next month

**Murder after Midnight** · 03-25-2010, 02:39 PM

How well do you think the lsx car's are going to hold up against them?

http://wot.motortrend.com/6658278/au...495/index.html

**LSCyaL8R** · 03-25-2010, 02:46 PM

see earlier thread lol..... my advice? unless you have some bolt ons don't mess with the 2011 stang. they are packing around 440-450hp. Someone got a 5.0 strapped to a dyno and pulled 395hp at the wheels.

**flash** · 03-25-2010, 02:52 PM

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...ang-gt-50.html

**wheeliE-maxx** · 03-25-2010, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by LSCyaL8R

see earlier thread lol..... my advice? unless you have some bolt ons don't mess with the 2011 stang. they are packing around 440-450hp. Someone got a 5.0 strapped to a dyno and pulled 395hp at the wheels.

I don't think the weight difference will keep a 395 horse mustang from beating a maybe 340 horse bolt on car. But 9/10 mustang guys around here can't drive. Yes, even automatics

**LSCyaL8R** · 03-25-2010, 03:16 PM

weight difference?

2011 Mustang GT 3603
2002 TransAm 3499

104lbs is a big difference?

The Camaro and Challenger are the porkers in the bunch. i think being down nearly 100hp to a car that is 100lbs heavier isn't going to do a stock f-body any good. A good F-body would dyno 300-305 when new. these are dynoing 395 out of the box....

Pretty open shut case. The 4th gen had a nearly 17 year run as king of the streets. From 1993-2010 it has been the best bang for the buck you could get. Can't argue with progress though.

**wheeliE-maxx** · 03-25-2010, 03:19 PM

Oh, i thought it would be around 3750 or so. Our formy is closer to 3300 pounds though

**snaggeltooth** · 03-25-2010, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by LSCyaL8R

weight difference?

2011 Mustang GT 3603
2002 TransAm 3499

104lbs is a big difference?

The Camaro and Challenger are the porkers in the bunch. i think being down nearly 100hp to a car that is 100lbs heavier isn't going to do a stock f-body any good. A good F-body would dyno 300-305 when new. these are dynoing 395 out of the box....

Pretty open shut case. The 4th gen had a nearly 17 year run as king of the streets. From 1993-2010 it has been the best bang for the buck you could get. Can't argue with progress though.

Even tho I like the new 2011 very much remember this IS a pre-production car .. and could have a little extra umph, because Ford knew all sorts of people would be testing it ...

**F-my-body** · 03-25-2010, 03:24 PM

ahhh damnit..looks like ill actually have to floor my gas pedal aaalll the way to the floor to win now

**GTP231** · 03-25-2010, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by LSCyaL8R

weight difference?

2011 Mustang GT 3603
2002 TransAm 3499

104lbs is a big difference?

The Camaro and Challenger are the porkers in the bunch. i think being down nearly 100hp to a car that is 100lbs heavier isn't going to do a stock f-body any good. A good F-body would dyno 300-305 when new. these are dynoing 395 out of the box....

Pretty open shut case. The 4th gen had a nearly 17 year run as king of the streets. From 1993-2010 it has been the best bang for the buck you could get. Can't argue with progress though.

LS3 cars dyno in the 360+ neighborhood stock

**blackSS01** · 03-25-2010, 04:00 PM

I won't be having any problems with them

Bout time Ford brought a A game.

**LSCyaL8R** · 03-25-2010, 04:02 PM

Point being? 4th gen's had either an LT1 or an LS1. I think what we are discussing has more to do with stock for stock.... sure anyone can put an LS3 in a 4th gen and with a few bolt ons end up with more power than the new stang and whip em good.

Unless of course you are pointing out that the LS3 is rated 426 and puts down 360 while the 5.0 is rated 412 and puts down 395....

In that case.... indeed! an interesting development for sure!

**cammed goat** · 03-25-2010, 04:33 PM

I will lose...but not by much.

**GTP231** · 03-25-2010, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by LSCyaL8R

Point being? 4th gen's had either an LT1 or an LS1. I think what we are discussing has more to do with stock for stock.... sure anyone can put an LS3 in a 4th gen and with a few bolt ons end up with more power than the new stang and whip em good.

Unless of course you are pointing out that the LS3 is rated 426 and puts down 360 while the 5.0 is rated 412 and puts down 395....

In that case.... indeed! an interesting development for sure!

Indeed that is where I was going. If they don't move me to Chrysler at work I'll let everyone know how the new 5.0 is when they start coming in and I PDI one

**snaggeltooth** · 03-25-2010, 05:01 PM

Hopefully by May .. we can get some real numbers and see what this new 5.0 is all about ...

**allbaugh_04** · 03-25-2010, 05:07 PM

Luckily I'll have the cam in soon.

So my 10 year old car, should have no problem...

**Transamws6** · 03-25-2010, 05:50 PM

I can't wait for that thing to debut. Gonna be sick as hell. If i had enough money for one, i'm 100% sure i'd have to go ahead and get one.

**Transamws6** · 03-25-2010, 06:05 PM

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf3BzvEximI[/ame]

Really, the 5th gen camaro can suck it....

**GTP231** · 03-25-2010, 06:19 PM

Lil lacking in the torque department. It's not gonna be some monster like its getting made out to be

**big hammer** · 03-25-2010, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by GTP231

Lil lacking in the torque department. It's not gonna be some monster like its getting made out to be

yeah the torque is poor.

but 395 at the wheels is pretty good, if it's legit.

**wheeliE-maxx** · 03-25-2010, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by GTP231

Lil lacking in the torque department. It's not gonna be some monster like its getting made out to be

Lsx cars for the most part don't hook well street tires, so it doesn't seem like torque would be a huge decisive factor unless you're on the track. Given a choice, i would pick torque