New Emissions Bill

[peteSS]

Anybody know anything about this new emissions bill that was passed. Will it eventually put an end to modern muscle or have no effect whatsoever?

[camarojunky74]

no effect in sight, basically all vehicles have to have atleast 25mpg hwy

[redls1]

I think they will eventually make hybrids just as fast as normal cars.

[FantaZGuy28]

My goat has no problem with 25mpg on teh freewayz

[SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]

no effect in sight, basically all vehicles have to have atleast 25mpg hwy

Even trucks?

[ixcd150]

Even trucks?

that's just it.....there'll be a half dozen loop holes in it the car makers will exploit. They'll tack on some other form of the gas guzzler tax so uncle sam gets his money and the cars themselves will change very little. Just my guess.

[FantaZGuy28]

that's just it.....there'll be a half dozen loop holes in it the car makers will exploit. They'll tack on some other form of the gas guzzler tax so uncle sam gets his money and the cars themselves will change very little. Just my guess.

Go to a dodge dealership. They have gas charge for most of their vehicles. I find it amusing.

[Zapper2003]

1000$ gas guzzler tax on a 'high performance' mustang at the local dealership (roush stage 3 drag/trakpak)

[Stone]

Sweet mines at 29-31.....but 9-18 otherwise depending on how long i stay in teh boost

[FasstChevys]

no effect in sight, basically all vehicles have to have atleast 25mpg hwy

Actually, I believe the figure is 35 mpg, which would be about a 40% increase on the current situation.

[third_shift|studios]

i was gonna say, most cars now should get 25 on the Hwy...i agree, it should be increased to 30.

just mean's that auto manufactures have to figure out how to push the limit with the confinds otherwise, they should make prices adapt. If i'm gonna buy a 2010 camaro and get slammed with a "gas tax" then i'm hoping GM prices it to accomedate that

[MagicMan]

another bullshit act by the assholes in power

[FasstChevys]

another bullshit act by the assholes in power

Right, because doing absolutely nothing would be better.

[ls1camino]

Right, because doing absolutely nothing would be better.

That's interesting...since it took them months to pass the budget for 2008, but it took them less then 2 weeks to pass this bullshit.

[FasstChevys]

That's interesting...since it took them months to pass the budget for 2008, but it took them less then 2 weeks to pass this bullshit.

What's even more interesting.........is why you think taking our energy situation seriously is bullshit?

[Dan01Vette]

What's even more interesting.........is why you think taking our energy situation seriously is bullshit?

If Americans wanted to buy and drive more fuel efficient vehicles, then they would. There are plenty of cars/hybrids/diesels out there that get extremely good gas mileage. Why make it government mandated?

Do you want the government to mandate every aspect of your life?

People who want to make a difference can, and people who simply cannot afford a vehicle that gets 12 mpg can buy one of numerous vehicles that get 30+ mpg all day long.

It boils down to personal taste and personal resposibility. I don't need the government dictating either.

[FasstChevys]

If Americans wanted to buy and drive more fuel efficient vehicles, then they would. There are plenty of cars/hybrids/diesels out there that get extremely good gas mileage. Why make it government mandated?

Do you want the government to mandate every aspect of your life?

People who want to make a difference can, and people who simply cannot afford a vehicle that gets 12 mpg can buy one of numerous vehicles that get 30+ mpg all day long.

It boils down to personal taste and personal resposibility. I don't need the government dictating either.

I still don't see the problem with making the vehicles that "Americans want to buy and drive" more fuel efficient. Where's the problem with that?

Obviously there is no personal responsibility and that's why a change needs to be made.

[Dan01Vette]

I still don't see the problem with making the vehicles that "Americans want to buy and drive" more fuel efficient. Where's the problem with that?

Obviously there is no personal responsibility and that's why a change needs to be made.

Parents and schools should teach personal responsibility. Parents especially. Everyone plays the blame game, wants to require big corporations and the government to raise their children, and tell them what's right and what's wrong.

Let the manufacturers make cars more fuel efficient. If the consumer demands it, they will make it. It shouldn't be congress that forces them to do so.

Not to mention grouping the trucks into the 35mpg requirement is plain retarded.

[FasstChevys]

Parents and schools should teach personal responsibility. Parents especially. Everyone plays the blame game, wants to require big corporations and the government to raise their children, and tell them what's right and what's wrong.

Let the manufacturers make cars more fuel efficient. If the consumer demands it, they will make it. It shouldn't be congress that forces them to do so.

Not to mention grouping the trucks into the 35mpg requirement is plain retarded.

Like I said, the personal responsibility part of your arguement isn't happening nationwide. So, that can be thrown out the window. I'm not so sure it's the 'blame game' anymore. We don't have a great looking energy situation because there really is no change happening. Don't you think it makes sense to not live in the past and make reform? This bill passed OVERWHELMINGLY in both the Senate and the House, and then quickly was signed by the President. How did the Senator (or House rep, or both) that you voted for cast his vote? (that is, if you voted)

I haven't read through the entire bill, but are trucks included? If so, why is it retarded? Why is better fuel mileage a bad thing??

[MagicMan]

Right, because doing absolutely nothing would be better.