If you were in the US Army

[Sarge]

and were told to fire on Americans here in this country.....would you?

[86 IROC-Z]

Need more info.

Are these Americans performing treasonous actions, or actions otherwise extremely damaging to national security?

Or are they just your happy-go-lucky, starbucks-drinking, texting-while-driving, "lol wat is iraq" Americans?

[SiggyZ]

I'm sure he's asking if the government ordered you to fire on citizens who were turning to violence to overthrow the government, would you follow orders and do it. As for me, I can't answer that question since I'm a Navy Seal.

[Sarge]

Need more info.

Are these Americans performing treasonous actions, or actions otherwise extremely damaging to national security?

Or are they just your happy-go-lucky, starbucks-drinking, texting-while-driving, "lol wat is iraq" Americans?

They are trying to overthrow the existing Government.

[Spaz]

i dont' know... that is a difficult question... while i lean more to "no" i'm not sure what the end result would be... if it were being done to reestablish a new govt then maybe i'd just sit there smoking a cig... if it were for pure anarchy with no rul then i would perform my duty...

[ls1kid20]

yes, you took an oath. Just because your a us citizen does not mean that you cant be an enemy of the united states or the governement of the united states.

[ss~zoso~ss]

YES

"against foreign or domestic..."

[Detroit Power]

Yes.





Yes x eleventy billion if I were stationed in California. I'd probably run out of magazines.

[rbob93]

Yes.





Yes x eleventy billion if I were stationed in California. I'd probably run out of magazines.

Or Texas

[67CamaroRSSS]

Kent State all over again?

Us oldsters know what I'm saying. You youngsters can Google it.

AFAIC, it would depend on the situation. Fire on peaceful demonstrators? No. Fire on an angry anarchist mob? Yes, if my life (or the lives of others) were at stake. Otherwise I'd have to think real hard about it.

[KahanaReef]

But, the oath is to defend the Constitution.

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

What if it's the government and current POTUS at the time that wants to overthrow and violate the Constitution?

[MrAFX]

Absolutely NOT!

[SiggyZ]

But, the oath is to defend the Constitution.

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

What if it's the government and current POTUS at the time that wants to overthrow and violate the Constitution?

That would be one hell of a pickle, wouldn't it?

[KahanaReef]

That would be one hell of a pickle, wouldn't it?

Indeed

[suede]

i dont' know... that is a difficult question... while i lean more to "no" i'm not sure what the end result would be... if it were being done to reestablish a new govt then maybe i'd just sit there smoking a cig... if it were for pure anarchy with no rul then i would perform my duty...

THIS

Yes.





Yes x eleventy billion if I were stationed in California. I'd probably run out of magazines.

and this....

[86 IROC-Z]

But, the oath is to defend the Constitution.

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

What if it's the government and current POTUS at the time that wants to overthrow and violate the Constitution?

That would be one hell of a pickle, wouldn't it?

Considering the Constitution has stood it's ground for over 200 years, whereas any given President and his posse only lasts a handful of years, I think I'm gonna side with the Constitution.

[98Hardtop]

Depends on the entire situation, thank God I don't have to worry about it anymore.

[Spaz]

Considering the Constitution has stood it's ground for over 200 years, whereas any given President and his posse only lasts a handful of years, I think I'm gonna side with the Constitution.

our constitution is fading...

[Detroit Power]

our constitution is fading...

literally and figuratively

[86 IROC-Z]

our constitution is fading...

All the more reason to defend it from those who are supposed to enforce it.