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    How can we stop this?

    I am of the belief that the UAW was the clog in GM and Chrysler's arteries causing their demise. Now (among other attempts in the past) they are trying to go after the non American auto manufacturers such as Honda (Ohio),and BMW (South Carolina).

    Anyways I saw this over at http://rumors.automobilemag.com/.

    "UAW Launching Campaign to Unionize Transplants; Could Call on Allies

    This January, Bob King, president of the United Auto Workers union, plans on launching an initiative to unionize transplant factories run by Asian and German automakers, adding that he could call on the help of a number of allies should he feel it necessary.

    The idea to try and unionize the transplant factories in the South officially received approval from the UAW’s board of directors last week and the official campaign will kick off sometime in January at a press conference. Once it’s officially underway, the movement will give the transplant factory workers a chance to join the UAW through an election.

    According to King, the UAW has already mailed letters to global CEOs of the transplant automakers. King declined to identify which automaker the union is going after first.

    In the past few decades, the UAW has tried to organize factory workers a number of times and failed. Nissan noted that its factory employees voted “overwhelmingly against organizing” every time a UAW effort has led to a union vote. A Nissan North America spokeswoman said that the company’s factory wages are fully competitive, that it has never laid off a factory employee in 27 years of manufacturing in the U.S., and that it fully complies with the National Labor Relations Act.

    “We feel the best way to interact with employees is through direct, two-way communication as opposed to involving a third party,” Nissan spokeswoman Katherine Zachary wrote to Automotive News in an e-mail. “This approach to employee relations has been very successful resulting in a healthy and positive work environment that encourages the free exchange of ideas.”

    Toyota noted similar statistics to Nissan in that because its wages are fully competitive and it has never laid off a factory employee in 25 years. Employees never felt the need to unionize, despite earlier pressure from the UAW.

    Now King says the UAW has more to offer as a “21st century” union. King says the UAW can now tout that it was instrumental in improving the quality of the Detroit Three’s vehicles over the last several years and that it was also first to the negotiating table, making concessions for the Detroit Three that helped them emerge from the financial crisis in 2008 and 2009.

    In the face of renewed organization attempts from a 21st century union, Hyundai, Nissan, and Toyota say they will leave it up to their factory workers to decide if they want to join the union or not. Despite reassurances from Toyota and Nissan, King says the UAW is asking target automakers to sign principles promising they won’t interfere in the factory elections. If the union is voted down fairly, King says the UAW will simply walk away. If the UAW doesn’t believe the vote was fair, however, King will call on his numerous allies to make sure the workers receive a fair vote.

    “Bob [King]’s got the troops,” Baldemar Velasquez, president of the migrant farm workers union based in Toledo, Ohio, told AN. And King certainly does with no less than 900,000 retired union members, 400,000 active members, and a number of other unions and influential civil rights activists ready and waiting. Civil rights leader Jesse Jackson, the Detroit chapter of the NAACP, and Baldemar’s union are just a few who have already pledged their help should King request it."
    http://rumors.automobilemag.com/uaw-...ies-11417.html

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    Unions ruined this country period.

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    I wonder how much they get paid?

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    They should also hire the workers who were laid off. Just my 2 cents.

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    The thing is they had a place and achieved their goal. There are rights, laws and regulations that make work safe, fare compensation and due process for violations.

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    Unions ruins companies, keep drinking the kool aid
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    Hey, they shoved the American auto makers out of the country, I am sure they can do the same for the foreign makers too. Why should any car be made by American workers anymore?

    Like you, I have zero respect for the unions in general, but especially the UAW. This is about getting more dues paying members for them, not for protecting any workers or whatever BS reasons they're giving for this move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loasdrums View Post
    The thing is they had a place and achieved their goal. There are rights, laws and regulations that make work safe, fare compensation and due process for violations.
    Exactly right. Unions were once very necessary due to worker exploitation. Now they exist as money making machines for the people at the top, and not as worker protecting organizations.

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    Takes me back to my union days in HVAC. Got laid off once and I got weary. Found another job and a month later...laid off again. Didn't give the union a third chance and went back into automotive. Haven't had a union job in 4 years. I feel unions should look more after their workers than the higher-ups.

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    unions had their place at the turn of the century through about the 1970s...but since then they have lost their place in business.

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    Less than 12% of the workers in the USA belong to a union. FACT.
    They have no horsepower to do shit.

    Unions destroy companies. Unions destroy your ability to be promoted based on your performance. The shittiest worker is going to get the same pay and benefits as the guy busting his ass.

    People are not stupid.

    Unions had their place years and years ago. Today we have labor laws. Who the fuck needs a union? For what? So you can "donate" 8 hours of pay a month to some dickhead that could care less about you or your family?

    Unions are dead. Unions are yet another example of why Socialism does not work.

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    "Now King says the UAW has more to offer as a “21st century” union. King says the UAW can now tout that it was instrumental in improving the quality of the Detroit Three’s vehicles over the last several years"

    WTH? The UAW responsible for improving quality?

    Now I know this guy is totally upfront and honest and only concerned with the welfare of the workers at non-union Honda, Toyota, and Nissan plants.

    You know, so that the UAW can bring their quality up to the level of a Dodge.

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    unions are for lazy people and ruin companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJREX View Post
    "Now King says the UAW has more to offer as a “21st century” union. King says the UAW can now tout that it was instrumental in improving the quality of the Detroit Three’s vehicles over the last several years"
    Hmm, so they're saying that US vehicles made in Canada and Mexico are a higher quality huh? That's all they helped accomplish. Are they honestly too blind or greedy to see that their involvement brought our auto industry to its knees, and their lack of involvement has allowed foreign makers to thrive in this country? Sad.

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    agrees with Sarges post, well put.

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    The thing is, those other workers are competition. They go to bargain wanting more money, more benefits. The auto maker need only to point out the other companies non-unionized workers making much less than them already and less benefits. They don't want to help them out, they just want to kill the competition. Selfish asshole fuck faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Less than 12% of the workers in the USA belong to a union. FACT.
    They have no horsepower to do shit.

    Unions destroy companies. Unions destroy your ability to be promoted based on your performance. The shittiest worker is going to get the same pay and benefits as the guy busting his ass.

    People are not stupid.

    Unions had their place years and years ago. Today we have labor laws. Who the fuck needs a union? For what? So you can "donate" 8 hours of pay a month to some dickhead that could care less about you or your family?

    Unions are dead. Unions are yet another example of why Socialism does not work.
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    i work for one of the "transplant" automakers,Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama,there is no way i would even think about joining a union,but i worry about the people i work with thinking the uaw would be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge View Post
    Less than 12% of the workers in the USA belong to a union. FACT.
    They have no horsepower to do shit.

    Unions destroy companies. Unions destroy your ability to be promoted based on your performance. The shittiest worker is going to get the same pay and benefits as the guy busting his ass.

    People are not stupid.

    Unions had their place years and years ago. Today we have labor laws. Who the fuck needs a union? For what? So you can "donate" 8 hours of pay a month to some dickhead that could care less about you or your family?

    Unions are dead. Unions are yet another example of why Socialism does not work.
    This is also why public education sucks. Public Educational teachers are all union. Can't get rid of a bad teacher these days.

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