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    Hey all I was at the range this friday with the wife we both 100 rounds. I have a P226 sig 40 cal wife has a HK P30 9mm. We always clean our guns after the range but alot came up so I cleaned them today and i noticed in both barrels there was still dirt lines I guess so brushed it with the kit i have and oil a few times it looks better but not like before I have fired my sig way over 1000 rounds and the barrel always looked like black glass after I clean but not this time so anyone can help me out on how to get the black glass look and clean barrel...

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    ummmmmmmmmm no idea where you are going with that....

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    its iroc....ignore him.

    i do a lot of shooting, i think i know what youre talking about...you prob wont get it back, but if i were you, id look for some aggressive cleaners, or use big patches that fit as tight as you can....try to buff it down some.

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    Why are you using metal brushes? Are you guys firing solid lead? If you're firing full metal jackets only then I'd do as Spikito says. You don't need to brush it out everytime unless there are serious deposits happening..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikito View Post
    its iroc....ignore him.

    i do a lot of shooting, i think i know what youre talking about...you prob wont get it back, but if i were you, id look for some aggressive cleaners, or use big patches that fit as tight as you can....try to buff it down some.

    I agree but dont think patches will do it.. Bore brush and tons of work... Make sure to pull the bore brush the way the round travels. Black gloss??? Must if not all of my guns are chrome lined. When I look down any of the barrels it makes it very easy to see if there is dirt or crap still in them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    Why are you using metal brushes? Are you guys firing solid lead? If you're firing full metal jackets only then I'd do as Spikito says. You don't need to brush it out everytime unless there are serious deposits happening..

    I agree I dont use them often... But for the stubborn to remove deposits.

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    we fire range rounds I get 100 for like $17 I also use 180 grain. I will re-clean with the brush and hope for the best what is a great gun kit or are all kits pretty much the same and the lines are deposits for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Theory View Post
    we fire range rounds I get 100 for like $17 I also use 180 grain. I will re-clean with the brush and hope for the best what is a great gun kit or are all kits pretty much the same and the lines are deposits for sure.
    where in the HELL are you getting ammo that cheap....i cant even get 22LR for that

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    well the main 2 guns i shoot are my RRA .223, and my M44....the M44 uses corrosive ammo, so i have to clean the shit out of it each time.

    my .223, has a heavy match stainless 20" barrel. its rather pricey, I try to make sure and do a good job. i dont want any pitting.

    the tolerances are too tight for any .223 stuff to work in it, but .22 bore brushes are a little loose, so i use that foam that melts out the copper, it goes in white, comes out blue. then run the brush through a few times to break stuff loose, then i get pretty agressive with solvents and patches till they run clean, then oil it up.


    but on the M44....its a 7.62 so i use a 30 cal brush, fits tight. i run it through about 3 times after the copper foam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikito View Post
    where in the HELL are you getting ammo that cheap....i cant even get 22LR for that
    I got a friend and I buy in bulk I do about 500 rounds when I run low. I can give you his number he is loc tenn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikito View Post
    well the main 2 guns i shoot are my RRA .223, and my M44....the M44 uses corrosive ammo, so i have to clean the shit out of it each time.

    my .223, has a heavy match stainless 20" barrel. its rather pricey, I try to make sure and do a good job. i dont want any pitting.




    but on the M44....its a 7.62 so i use a 30 cal brush, fits tight. i run it through about 3 times after the copper foam.
    I have the copper brush I guess and I really go to town when I clean but I think I waited to long and I hope i didn't fuck up my sig =0(

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    i have a 19. some drill is I hook up the brush to it and run it in the barrel would that help or make it worse?

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    Somebody asked if you were using lead bullets. If you are using swaged lead (softer) then this IS lead build up. If they are hard cast lead, then it COULD be lead build up. In either case, a lot of scrubbing is needed, along with stronger solvents than just the standard Hoppe's #9. One way to speed up the process - but only on a service grade gun - is to fire some jacketed bullets through it before you clean it. The lands and grooves will be "forcibly" cleaned by the copper jacketed projectile....somewhat.

    I've found that wadding polish works well on chrome lined barrels. You can't "thread" it through a bore swab end, but you can push it through. Give that a try and see what it does.

    100 rounds for $17 sounds like lead to me. These days you would be hard-pressed to buy 100 jacketed projectiles to LOAD for that.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Theory View Post
    we fire range rounds I get 100 for like $17 I also use 180 grain. I will re-clean with the brush and hope for the best what is a great gun kit or are all kits pretty much the same and the lines are deposits for sure.
    Otis makes a great kit. Pricey, but high quality. Hoppe's makes good solvents, and #9 is the standard for the gun world. They make stronger solvents (like Hoppe's 9 Bench Rest) for lead and copper fouling too. RemClean is good too, and RemOil is a good "light" oil for use as a rust inhibitor.

    There are numerous other types of solvents and oils that will work (hell, even 3in1 oil is fine), but for someone who shoots modestly, a Hoppe's Cleaning Kit will fit the bill and can be had about anywhere. If you want to use some popular LS1.com brands of oil, Lucas and Royal Purple also make gun oil!
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Theory View Post
    i have a 19. some drill is I hook up the brush to it and run it in the barrel would that help or make it worse?

    Do not use a drill. You need to have a cleaning handle that TURNS freely, this causes the brush to follow the twist of the rifling. You need the right solvent and brush, not power.

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    this is what i use when i go to the range i heard they where good range rounds let me know.




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    Rem UMC stuff is okay for range. They're copper-jacketed which I'm surprised you are getting for that price.

    The carry rounds look like they are good choices. It's always a good idea to keep your "practice" and "carry" ammo in the same weight (180 gr. for example) and fps range, so the ballistics are similar.

    I carry a Law Enforcement Only Winchester load, but then again I'm REQUIRED to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Theory View Post
    I got a friend and I buy in bulk I do about 500 rounds when I run low. I can give you his number he is loc tenn.
    yeah thatd be nice....ill prob be buying some after the holidays

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    I use Hoppes Elite Bore Cleaner. Swab down the bore and let it set for a couple of hours and repeat. It's a non toxic and non stinky bore cleaner too. You sig will be fine.

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