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    An absolute must read !!

    I just got this in an email from my g/f dont know how true or factual the information is but it hits some very good damn points, and I wanted to share with everyone the information as I feel that its important since I feel our government doesnt do a good enough job of it!!

    Edit: This is just informative to show you how slack security really is and it is a long read but worth it.


    Advice from an Israeli Agent
    AN ABSOLUTE MUST READ !!


    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie ' Munich ' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

    In a lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know -- but that our government has not yet shared with us.

    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.


    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.


    Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.


    Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke -- that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

    For example:

    1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear ; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked!
    Every strategy we have is reactionary.

    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.

    Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel , security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.


    Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (i.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as, rural America this time. The interlands ( Wyoming , Montana , etc.).

    The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas.

    Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.


    Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U. S. Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts. The world is quickly going to become 'a different place', and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.

    On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective ; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'.


    He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, 'homegrown', having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East . These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans ; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them.

    Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will inevitably face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.


    So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel 's, Ireland 's and England 's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to pay attention to, and trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens ; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.

    Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago , someone tried to steal the briefcase!


    In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves.


    Unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.

    Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City , this was days, in some cases!)

    He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, of how to respond in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools too, develop plans of actions, just as they do in Israel .

    Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

    Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan, that in the event of another terrorist attack, EVERYONE’s ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., will immediately be cut-off, as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.

    How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak to each other? You need to have a plan.

    If you understand, and believe what you have just read, then you must feel compelled to send this to every concerned parent, guardian, grandparents, uncles, aunts, whomever. Don't stop there. In addition to sharing this via e-mail, contact and discuss this information with whomever it makes sense to. Make contingency plans with those you care about. Better that you have plans in place, and never have to use them, then to have no plans in place, and find you needed them.

    If you choose not to share this, or not to have a plan in place, and nothing ever occurs -- good for you! However, in the event something does happen, and even more so, if it directly affects your loved ones, then this e-mail will haunt you forever.

    Telling yourself after the fact, "I should have sent this to so and so, but deleted it as so much trash from old Bill Jones, plus, I just didn't believe it", will not change anything. You were alerted, had the chance to do something, and instead of erring on the side of caution, you chose to disregard, if nothing else, a sensible, valuable warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehawk2000 View Post
    I just got this in an email from my g/f dont know how true or factual the information is but it hits some very good damn points, and I wanted to share with everyone the information as I feel that its important since I feel our government doesnt do a good enough job of it!!

    Advice from an Israeli Agent
    AN ABSOLUTE MUST READ !!


    Juval Aviv was the Israeli Agent upon whom the movie ' Munich ' was based. He was Golda Meir's bodyguard, and she appointed him to track down and bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who took the Israeli athletes hostage and killed them during the Munich Olympic Games.

    In a lecture in New York City he shared information that EVERY American needs to know -- but that our government has not yet shared with us.

    He predicted the London subway bombing on the Bill O'Reilly show on Fox News stating publicly that it would happen within a week. At the time, O'Reilly laughed, and mocked him saying that in a week he wanted him back on the show. Unfortunately, within a week the terrorist attack had occurred.


    Juval Aviv gave intelligence (via what he had gathered in Israel and the Middle East ) to the Bush Administration about 9/11, a month before it occurred. His report specifically said they would use planes as bombs and target high profile buildings and monuments. Congress has since hired him as a security consultant.


    Now for his future predictions. He predicts the next terrorist attack on the U.S. will occur within the next few months.


    Forget hijacking airplanes, because he says terrorists will NEVER try and hijack a plane again as they know the people onboard will never go down quietly again. Aviv believes our airport security is a joke -- that we have been reactionary rather than proactive in developing strategies that are truly effective.

    For example:

    1) Our airport technology is outdated. We look for metal, and the new explosives are made of plastic.

    2) He talked about how some idiot tried to light his shoe on fire. Because of that, now everyone has to take off their shoes. A group of idiots tried to bring aboard liquid explosives. Now we can't bring liquids on board. He says he's waiting for some suicidal maniac to pour liquid explosive on his underwear ; at which point, security will have us all traveling naked!
    Every strategy we have is reactionary.

    3) We only focus on security when people are heading to the gates.

    Aviv says that if a terrorist attack targets airports in the future, they will target busy times on the front end of the airport when/where people are checking in. It would be easy for someone to take two suitcases of explosives, walk up to a busy check-in line, ask a person next to them to watch their bags for a minute while they run to the restroom or get a drink, and then detonate the bags BEFORE security even gets involved. In Israel , security checks bags BEFORE people can even ENTER the airport.


    Aviv says the next terrorist attack here in America is imminent and will involve suicide bombers and non-suicide bombers in places where large groups of people congregate. (i.e., Disneyland, Las Vegas casinos, big cities (New York, San Francisco, Chicago, etc.) and that it will also include shopping malls, subways in rush hour, train stations, etc., as well as, rural America this time. The interlands ( Wyoming , Montana , etc.).

    The attack will be characterized by simultaneous detonations around the country (terrorists like big impact), involving at least 5-8 cities, including rural areas.

    Aviv says terrorists won't need to use suicide bombers in many of the larger cities, because at places like the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, they can simply valet park a car loaded with explosives and walk away.


    Aviv says all of the above is well known in intelligence circles, but that our U. S. Government does not want to 'alarm American citizens' with the facts. The world is quickly going to become 'a different place', and issues like 'global warming' and political correctness will become totally irrelevant.

    On an encouraging note, he says that Americans don't have to be concerned about being nuked. Aviv says the terrorists who want to destroy America will not use sophisticated weapons. They like to use suicide as a front-line approach. It's cheap, it's easy, it's effective ; and they have an infinite abundance of young militants more than willing to 'meet their destiny'.


    He also says the next level of terrorists, over which America should be most concerned, will not be coming from abroad. But will be, instead, 'homegrown', having attended and been educated in our own schools and universities right here in the U.S. He says to look for 'students' who frequently travel back and forth to the Middle East . These young terrorists will be most dangerous because they will know our language and will fully understand the habits of Americans ; but that we Americans won't know/understand a thing about them.

    Aviv says that, as a people, Americans are unaware and uneducated about the terrorist threats we will inevitably face. America still has only a handful of Arabic and Farsi speaking people in our intelligence networks, and Aviv says it is critical that we change that fact SOON.


    So, what can America do to protect itself? From an intelligence perspective, Aviv says the U.S. needs to stop relying on satellites and technology for intelligence. We need to, instead, follow Israel 's, Ireland 's and England 's hands-on examples of human intelligence, both from an infiltration perspective as well as to pay attention to, and trust 'aware' citizens to help. We need to engage and educate ourselves as citizens ; however, our U. S. government continues to treat us, its citizens, 'like babies'. Our government thinks we 'can't handle the truth' and are concerned that we'll panic if we understand the realities of terrorism. Aviv says this is a deadly mistake.

    Aviv recently created/executed a security test for our Congress, by placing an empty briefcase in five well-traveled spots in five major cities. The results? Not one person called 911 or sought a policeman to check it out. In fact, in Chicago , someone tried to steal the briefcase!


    In comparison, Aviv says that citizens of Israel are so well 'trained' that an unattended bag or package would be reported in seconds by citizen(s) who know to publicly shout, 'Unattended Bag!' The area would be quickly & calmly cleared by the citizens themselves.


    Unfortunately, America hasn't been yet 'hurt enough' by terrorism for their government to fully understand the need to educate its citizens or for the government to understand that it's their citizens who are, inevitably, the best first-line of defense against terrorism.

    Aviv also was concerned about the high number of children here in America who were in preschool and kindergarten after 9/11, who were 'lost' without parents being able to pick them up, and about our schools that had no plan in place to best care for the students until parents could get there. (In New York City , this was days, in some cases!)

    He stresses the importance of having a plan, that's agreed upon within your family, of how to respond in the event of a terrorist emergency. He urges parents to contact their children's schools and demand that the schools too, develop plans of actions, just as they do in Israel .

    Does your family know what to do if you can't contact one another by phone? Where would you gather in an emergency? He says we should all have a plan that is easy enough for even our youngest children to remember and follow.

    Aviv says that the U. S. government has in force a plan, that in the event of another terrorist attack, EVERYONE’s ability to use cell phones, blackberries, etc., will immediately be cut-off, as this is the preferred communication source used by terrorists and is often the way that their bombs are detonated.

    How will you communicate with your loved ones in the event you cannot speak to each other? You need to have a plan.

    If you understand, and believe what you have just read, then you must feel compelled to send this to every concerned parent, guardian, grandparents, uncles, aunts, whomever. Don't stop there. In addition to sharing this via e-mail, contact and discuss this information with whomever it makes sense to. Make contingency plans with those you care about. Better that you have plans in place, and never have to use them, then to have no plans in place, and find you needed them.

    If you choose not to share this, or not to have a plan in place, and nothing ever occurs -- good for you! However, in the event something does happen, and even more so, if it directly affects your loved ones, then this e-mail will haunt you forever.

    Telling yourself after the fact, "I should have sent this to so and so, but deleted it as so much trash from old Bill Jones, plus, I just didn't believe it", will not change anything. You were alerted, had the chance to do something, and instead of erring on the side of caution, you chose to disregard, if nothing else, a sensible, valuable warning.
    You are wondering if its real?

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    No this isnt me wondering this is me just being informative, take what you want from it this is just me putting it out their, alot of the information is true airport security is laxidasical, we have the technology to kill every cell phone signal in the country, nobody thinks logically about stuff why would a terrorist use a plane again, why not place bombs in bags in crowded areas like malls and such no bag checks their, how about a car bomb in front of the mgm grand?
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    Why hasn't anyone did what I wanted to do. Nuke the entire Arabic area and build a Super Walmart over the green glass
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    Not only is this a repost it was proven mostly (if not entirely) false by Snopes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Not only is this a repost it was proven mostly (if not entirely) false by Snopes.
    not saying that some real guy said all this jazz, but I believe alot of it is more informative than anything, its more of a realization of things that could possibly happen you know what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackSS01 View Post
    Why hasn't anyone did what I wanted to do. Nuke the entire Arabic area and build a Super Walmart over the green glass
    That would be very bad in all reality lol wish we could but the reprecussions of that is just to vast to even risk any of that bs plus to many innocent people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackSS01 View Post
    "Kill'em all and let God sort them out" is what I live by
    Yea but I dont want that kind of blood on my hands, plus the ROE(rules of engagement) we have now is rediculous you would be freakin surprised how strict they are, they are more willing to put a soldier on trial for murder for anything now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehawk2000 View Post
    Yea but I dont want that kind of blood on my hands, plus the ROE(rules of engagement) we have now is rediculous you would be freakin surprised how strict they are, they are more willing to put a soldier on trial for murder for anything now!!
    Oh I know, I was Operation Enduring Freedom for 8 months! Its complete bullshit I agree. And unless your the guy pressing the button, no blood on your hands

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    We have the technology and sophistication to level any playing field but america has turned into such a bunch of politically correct pussies that this flip flop shagging rag head country has put the fear in all americans we should have nipped it in the butt from the get go put the fear in the World and let countries know dont fuck with us or else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doberman 152 View Post
    We have the technology and sophistication to level any playing field but america has turned into such a bunch of politically correct pussies that this flip flop shagging rag head country has put the fear in all americans we should have nipped it in the butt from the get go put the fear in the World and let countries know dont fuck with us or else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackSS01 View Post
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    For real you no, fawk this bullshit start letting countries know we are so far advanced we will smoke you from the water not even step a foot on your dirt poor country and blow the shit out of it, and make them think twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doberman 152 View Post
    We have the technology and sophistication to level any playing field but america has turned into such a bunch of politically correct pussies that this flip flop shagging rag head country has put the fear in all americans we should have nipped it in the butt from the get go put the fear in the World and let countries know dont fuck with us or else!
    Oh I totally agree with you on that one, the 3rd ID just showed up here to take over doing a very good job shall I say, but I heard their sergeant major talking about banning cussing I was like wtf, he asked one of the specialist what he thought and he said fuck that sergeant major what are you thinking this is the army not the boy scouts and walked away. Everything is starting to become politically correct, like reading about the deal with the versus that was imprinted on the acogs that come from the factory havent had a problem with it for 40 years till now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehawk2000 View Post
    Oh I totally agree with you on that one, the 3rd ID just showed up here to take over doing a very good job shall I say, but I heard their sergeant major talking about banning cussing I was like wtf, he asked one of the specialist what he thought and he said fuck that sergeant major what are you thinking this is the army not the boy scouts and walked away. Everything is starting to become politically correct, like reading about the deal with the versus that was imprinted on the acogs that come from the factory havent had a problem with it for 40 years till now.
    That was me 6 years ago And doberman, I totally agree! Don't fuck with us or we WILL fuck you up!

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    And if its the oil that were fighting over also heres an idea, start drilling the black gold more in america blow up all there oil fields so the can never drill again and if other countries dont like that fuck them we'll yank everything thats not made in the U.S. off the shelves and fawkin make it here are dam selves create jobs in america and piss on everyone else. Now i know im just blowing smoke up your ass but this shit has to stop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackSS01 View Post
    That was me 6 years ago And doberman, I totally agree! Don't fuck with us or we WILL fuck you up!
    Yea they have alot of experienced guys, but then again they have alot of new young e1-e3 surprised me how many inexperienced they had alot of them fresh out of bct and ait at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doberman 152 View Post
    And if its the oil that were fighting over also heres an idea, start drilling the black gold more in america blow up all there oil fields so the can never drill again and if other countries dont like that fuck them we'll yank everything thats not made in the U.S. off the shelves and fawkin make it here are dam selves create jobs in america and piss on everyone else. Now i know im just blowing smoke up your ass but this shit has to stop!
    Wont never happen great plan I love it I am voting for you as president!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehawk2000 View Post
    Wont never happen great plan I love it I am voting for you as president!!!
    Drilling our own oil would greatly lead to less dependence on foreign oil, as well as thousands and thousands of new American jobs, Shit man we could have Sarge run the oil fields here in the U.S. the old fart knows so much about the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doberman 152 View Post
    Drilling our own oil would greatly lead to less dependence on foreign oil, as well as thousands and thousands of new American jobs, Shit man we could have Sarge run the oil fields here in the U.S. the old fart knows so much about the stuff.

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