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    Dayum - that is a little bit more than I expected..........maybe I'll wait about 3 to 5 years and then buy one.

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    Yeah. A bit pricey and for a DD, air conditioning is a must around here

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    GM is trying to kill the Camaro market again. Why pay that much for a Z28 when you can get a Vette for cheaper?

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    LOL are you kidding me...? If this doesnt show how much of a rip off GM has become I dont know what will..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Must login or register to view? Fuck the LA Times! I wouldn't buy that rag when I lived there (South Bay Daily Breeze for me)...
    Ed posted this earlier

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    GM is trying to kill the Camaro market again. Why pay that much for a Z28 when you can get a Vette for cheaper?
    They're going to sell every single one of them. You do understand how much more it costs to produce this car than it does to produce a ZL1, right? The brakes alone are several thousand dollars.

    And @ GM being a rip off. GM produces some of the best bang for the buck cars in existence. They're not trying to build the Z28 for every asshole that wants a Camaro. Those people can go get a 1LE and have damn good performance value.
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    And the Camaro Z28 has never been a high end sports car ever. That's what Corvettes are. Camaro has always been for the "working man", now they can barely afford it as a basic model.

    ZL1's aren't cheap either. Depending on the area most going for $55,000. Not a modest price.



    Honestly why would anyone pay this much for one? I love GM cars but this is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    And the Camaro Z28 has never been a high end sports car ever. That's what Corvettes are. Camaro has always been for the "working man", now they can barely afford it as a basic model.

    ZL1's aren't cheap either. Depending on the area most going for $55,000. Not a modest price.



    Honestly why would anyone pay this much for one? I love GM cars but this is ridiculous.
    Back in '69, how much did a '69 ZL1 Camaro cost? What would that cost be in today's terms?


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    Quote Originally Posted by FasstChevys View Post
    Back in '69, how much did a '69 ZL1 Camaro cost? What would that cost be in today's terms?
    1969 Camaro Prices:

    V6 - $2600-$2800
    V8 Base - $2700-$2900
    RS - $2700-$3100
    SS - $3000-$3900
    Z28 - $3600
    Indy Pace - $3200-$3500

    All I could find for a ZL1 cost was $7200

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    According to the CPI Calculator $3100 in 1969 = $19687 in 2013, $3900 = $24,767.55 in 2013, $7200 = $45724 in 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    1969 Camaro Prices:

    V6 - $2600-$2800
    V8 Base - $2700-$2900
    RS - $2700-$3100
    SS - $3000-$3900
    Z28 - $3600
    Indy Pace - $3200-$3500

    All I could find for a ZL1 cost was $7200

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    According to the CPI Calculator $3100 in 1969 = $19687 in 2013, $3900 = $24,767.55 in 2013, $7200 = $45724 in 2013.
    So....it sounds like the current ZL1 is about 10K high... :

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    that's the Union mark up I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    that's the Union mark up I guess.
    That, and it has a supercharger - the '69 didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    1969 Camaro Prices:

    V6 - $2600-$2800
    V8 Base - $2700-$2900
    RS - $2700-$3100
    SS - $3000-$3900
    Z28 - $3600
    Indy Pace - $3200-$3500

    All I could find for a ZL1 cost was $7200

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    According to the CPI Calculator $3100 in 1969 = $19687 in 2013, $3900 = $24,767.55 in 2013, $7200 = $45724 in 2013.
    And the corvette l89 in 1969 was 4,700ish msrp. So GM was selling a higher priced camaro even back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FasstChevys View Post
    So....it sounds like the current ZL1 is about 10K high... :
    which is exactly why I said GM is becoming a rip off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0THIS View Post
    They're going to sell every single one of them. You do understand how much more it costs to produce this car than it does to produce a ZL1, right? The brakes alone are several thousand dollars.

    And @ GM being a rip off. GM produces some of the best bang for the buck cars in existence. They're not trying to build the Z28 for every asshole that wants a Camaro. Those people can go get a 1LE and have damn good performance value.
    I know how much stuff costs...but it has a union mark up that would knock 10-20,000 off the price of the vehicles, especially the high end vehicles. the Z28 has no reason to be $75,000...the ZL1 should have been the Z28 if they are going to charge this much. I also realize that these cars arent for everybody...but the Z28 used to be for just about everybody...the SS was the performance package "atleast in the 90s to 2002". I just think they did this whole thing backwards...When I think of a Z28 I think of a base model camaro with a big engine and some options...not the top of the line performance car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theorangeguy View Post
    I know how much stuff costs...but it has a union mark up that would knock 10-20,000 off the price of the vehicles, especially the high end vehicles. the Z28 has no reason to be $75,000...the ZL1 should have been the Z28 if they are going to charge this much. I also realize that these cars arent for everybody...but the Z28 used to be for just about everybody...the SS was the performance package "atleast in the 90s to 2002". I just think they did this whole thing backwards...When I think of a Z28 I think of a base model camaro with a big engine and some options...not the top of the line performance car.
    Umm no. Taking the union out of the equation wouldn't knock 10-20 grand off the price. You don't understand how these things work quite obviously. And lolz at everybody just using some straight up inflation calculator to determine that all the Camaros are overpriced. GM is going to sell every single one of these limited production cars. And they probably wont make much if any money on them. People aren't factoring in the development costs on such a car, that cant be spread out over a large production run like other vehicles. They did the Z28 for enthusiasts, and 75k may very well have been the break even point or close to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theorangeguy View Post
    I know how much stuff costs...but it has a union mark up that would knock 10-20,000 off the price of the vehicles, especially the high end vehicles. the Z28 has no reason to be $75,000...the ZL1 should have been the Z28 if they are going to charge this much. I also realize that these cars arent for everybody...but the Z28 used to be for just about everybody...the SS was the performance package "atleast in the 90s to 2002". I just think they did this whole thing backwards...When I think of a Z28 I think of a base model camaro with a big engine and some options...not the top of the line performance car.
    No... GM did it backwards in the 90s-2002. The original z28 cost more than the base SS back in the late 60s and was considered a higher end model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    No... GM did it backwards in the 90s-2002. The original z28 cost more than the base SS back in the late 60s and was considered a higher end model.

    This. The SS package was nothing more than a trim package for the most part when the Camaro came out. The Z28 was the performance car.

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