60s 454 Grand Prix that gets 100+ MPGs?

**kool-aide** · 05-16-2008, 06:04 PM

Ok, I'm not old enough to remember the gas shortage of the 70s or old enough to relive the hey day of 60s muscle.

Some one was telling me there was a guy that built a car in the 60s that got like 130 miles from one gallon of gas. He said it was aired on the news and everything, no fluke. Of course i'm skeptical and googled. But without a coupe of key words I may never find a story or any info.

Has any one ever heard of this before?

The rumor is the oil company bought out the pattern to kill the idea.

thanks

kool-aide

**Nhra Firebird** · 05-16-2008, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by kool-aide

Ok, I'm not old enough to remember the gas shortage of the 70s or old enough to relive the hey day of 60s muscle.

Some one was telling me there was a guy that built a car in the 60s that got like 130 miles from one gallon of gas. He said it was aired on the news and everything, no fluke. Of course i'm skeptical and googled. But without a coupe of key words I may never find a story or any info.

Has any one ever heard of this before?

The rumor is the oil company bought out the pattern to kill the idea.

thanks

kool-aide

i heard that story years ago, but i dunno if it is true

**kool-aide** · 05-16-2008, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird

i heard that story years ago, but i dunno if it is true

yeah i just heard it today. Maybe some one will read this and have close info on the story. I would love to read more about it, but without good search key words i get all kinds of nut case junk.

**yellowv** · 05-16-2008, 06:32 PM

Unless you find a hill with a good slope that is 100 miles down and put that bitch in nuetral there aint no way a heavy ass old Grand Prix with a 454 is going to get 100+ mpg. BS.

**Nhra Firebird** · 05-16-2008, 06:39 PM

this is a pretty cool vid....

**kool-aide** · 05-16-2008, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by yellowv

Unless you find a hill with a good slope that is 100 miles down and put that bitch in nuetral there aint no way a heavy ass old Grand Prix with a 454 is going to get 100+ mpg. BS.

i'm with you on that, but willing to at least search for it.

I don't know the story, so maybe it wasn't a grand prix, maybe it wasn't a 454, who knows. I thought it was a little far fetched so what better place to ask than here.

What I got out of the story was the owner tuned the car and invented something. It is the invention that got the car in to the high MPGs, it didn't get there on its own.

I figure, maybe a low rear gear like 2.70s? Maybe a small CFM carb? Maybe this invention plus black magic?

I was hoping to see if any one old enough remembers because the claim is it was televised.

**Nhra Firebird** · 05-16-2008, 06:43 PM

http://www.rexresearch.com/pogue/1pogue.htm

**SeVeReDiStOrTiOn** · 05-16-2008, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird

this is a pretty cool vid....

whoa, 100miles on 4oz of water...I hope someone funds their work.

**Nhra Firebird** · 05-16-2008, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by SeVeReDiStOrTiOn

whoa, 100miles on 4oz of water...I hope someone funds their work.

i could see that guy becoming the next bill gates

**Y2KPewterSS** · 05-16-2008, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by kool-aide

Ok, I'm not old enough to remember the gas shortage of the 70s or old enough to relive the hey day of 60s muscle.

Some one was telling me there was a guy that built a car in the 60s that got like 130 miles from one gallon of gas. He said it was aired on the news and everything, no fluke. Of course i'm skeptical and googled. But without a coupe of key words I may never find a story or any info.

Has any one ever heard of this before?

The rumor is the oil company bought out the pattern to kill the idea.

thanks

kool-aide

Stories grow over time, it might have actually been 10+ miles on a gallon of gas that grew into 100+ miles on a gallon over time.

**LS1WS6** · 05-16-2008, 08:59 PM

god if i friggin hear this stupid ass story again from anyone i think im going to go ape shit. Yea my dads friends cousins uncle had a mustang that was 2,000 hp and ran 4's in the 1/4.. Its the same damn thing, i got a guy at my work that said his uncles friend or such bought a car back in the 70's that got some crazy ass gas milage (50-60mpg) and when he took it back to the dealer he was telling them how much he liked the car and the awesome gas milage it got. As the story goes it was a "proto type" carb and was to never be on a car sold to the public and they took it off the car... Yea and i got a nice bridge to sell you..

**kool-aide** · 05-17-2008, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird

this is a pretty cool vid....

WOW. That is very fascinating. That's the kind of thinking the old farts of corrupt politics need to start doing.

I guess if you can power an old 4Duh Escort then it why not give it a try, lol...

My only concern is water is not what I would think is a renewable resource. Hopefully it condenses coming out the tail pipe, but wouldn't that turn our rounds into a slip in slide? Any way, I like it.

I know in South FL they are working on under water wave generators, much like wind generators, out in the gulf stream.

**kool-aide** · 05-17-2008, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by LS1WS6

god if i friggin hear this stupid ass story again from anyone i think im going to go ape shit. Yea my dads friends cousins uncle had a mustang that was 2,000 hp and ran 4's in the 1/4.. Its the same damn thing, i got a guy at my work that said his uncles friend or such bought a car back in the 70's that got some crazy ass gas milage (50-60mpg) and when he took it back to the dealer he was telling them how much he liked the car and the awesome gas milage it got. As the story goes it was a "proto type" carb and was to never be on a car sold to the public and they took it off the car... Yea and i got a nice bridge to sell you..

lol...well at least I got to see a cool vid out of Clearwater on a water powered torch.

yeah I don't buy the 130 MPGs. But, if the story at least earned them say 30-40 MPGs on that engine it is still a good story.

I'd slap a GM diesel in my car and run french fry fuel if I could afford it.

**kool-aide** · 05-17-2008, 04:57 AM

hah, I posted a contact email on that Aquygen web site. I told the guy I wanted to be the first LS1 z28 running it. Ah it's nice to day dream and have fantasies. Hey who knows, if it works, its real, and I can afford it. Maybe you will see me sporting an Aquagen car, lol....

then you will probably see me on the news blown to pieces...man dies doing 120 down I-4 after his hydrogen powered Camaro explodes...ouch...

**derrinx** · 05-17-2008, 12:24 PM

turning water into hydrogen gas is a very energy demanding reaction.. theres a reason why water is such a stable molecule... his device probaqbly uses 2 units of electricity to make 1 unit of his gas

**kool-aide** · 05-17-2008, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by derrinx

turning water into hydrogen gas is a very energy demanding reaction.. theres a reason why water is such a stable molecule... his device probaqbly uses 2 units of electricity to make 1 unit of his gas

not sure, but proof is always in the pudding right?

I figure what the hell. The torch he built looks cool.