got killed but still happy I hung in there.

**tigersport14** · 05-29-2008, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by 2K05GT

Not really a lot of money,
Stock Block with Headers cams and a saleen supercharger w/3.2 pully = 500 RWHP

here are some installs http://www.brenspeed.com/customers/index.html

.. arnt superchargers a lot of money...

**TedsB4Csled** · 05-30-2008, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by tigersport14

.. arnt superchargers a lot of money...

A good one is, not to mention the supporting upgrades to do it right; fuel system, inter-cooler and a GOOD tune. I've recently been researching an STS turbo, they are cheap but incomplete. Stage 1 and 2 don't even offer an inter-cooler. Stage 3 comes without intake tubes. Interesting design though. Placed where the muffler was and operates off exhaust gas pressure, NO belt!

**knappbunch** · 05-31-2008, 09:02 AM

yea I have the sts has advantages and drawbacks but I like it. here's the best intercooler deal I can find.

http://www.trtturbo.com/index.html

**tigersport14** · 05-31-2008, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by TedsB4Csled

A good one is, not to mention the supporting upgrades to do it right; fuel system, inter-cooler and a GOOD tune. I've recently been researching an STS turbo, they are cheap but incomplete. Stage 1 and 2 don't even offer an inter-cooler. Stage 3 comes without intake tubes. Interesting design though. Placed where the muffler was and operates off exhaust gas pressure, NO belt!

my friend just installed an sts turbo on his z28!

i love it

**N20LT4** · 05-31-2008, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by TedsB4Csled

A good one is, not to mention the supporting upgrades to do it right; fuel system, inter-cooler and a GOOD tune. I've recently been researching an STS turbo, they are cheap but incomplete. Stage 1 and 2 don't even offer an inter-cooler. Stage 3 comes without intake tubes. Interesting design though. Placed where the muffler was and operates off exhaust gas pressure, NO belt!

My buddie had a Squires kit on his '98 Z28. Experienced too many problems and ended up going with a front-mount kit from HP. Funny thing is his car made a considerable amount more horsepower @ lower boost w/ the front mount kit than the STS.

**slims00ls1z28** · 05-31-2008, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by knappbunch

I am not real familiar with all the aspects of the computer in these cars but when I explained tuner what was going on he said the computer has torque management where it takes out timing as the car is making a certain amount of torque to save the tranny and it also pulls timing for the manifold air temp as it increases on boost. with both of these together it was pulling out to much it is much better now but still needs more adjusting and I still think the car should dyno close to 500 at the rear wheels once I get it figured out.

Torque management is only applied prior to the shift to save the tranny not specific torque output. It pulls timing out right before shifting. Stangs torque management (new ones) can be felt more.

**TedsB4Csled** · 05-31-2008, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by slims00ls1z28

Torque management is only applied prior to the shift to save the tranny not specific torque output. It pulls timing out right before shifting. Stangs torque management (new ones) can be felt more.

Stangs are worse? Wow, I thought we had it bad. I can't imagine any worse. Glad I got a tune, now second gear gets me sideways!

**RandomOmen** · 06-04-2008, 10:53 AM

Good race story

**Roastem** · 06-04-2008, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by N20LT4

My buddie had a Squires kit on his '98 Z28. Experienced too many problems and ended up going with a front-mount kit from HP. Funny thing is his car made a considerable amount more horsepower @ lower boost w/ the front mount kit than the STS.

I heard the 97-98 LS1's have tuning issues. (Jeff at CAM) Something about squirly electronics...

Anyway, he tunes an ass load of LSX's, and he said to get something 99 and newer if available.

**N20LT4** · 06-04-2008, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Roastem

I heard the 97-98 LS1's have tuning issues. (Jeff at CAM) Something about squirly electronics...

Anyway, he tunes an ass load of LSX's, and he said to get something 99 and newer if available.

So I guess if you have a '97 Corvette or '98 'vette/F-Body your screwed, unless you purchase a '99 or later PCM.

I'm going to talk to my LS1 tuner Keith @ Force Fed Performance and see what he says about this. I'm really curious about it now...

**TedsB4Csled** · 06-04-2008, 02:10 PM

What does the basic STS turbo run new $?

**hutch1999** · 06-04-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by N20LT4

So I guess if you have a '97 Corvette or '98 'vette/F-Body your screwed, unless you purchase a '99 or later PCM.

I'm going to talk to my LS1 tuner Keith @ Force Fed Performance and see what he says about this. I'm really curious about it now...

The 98 f bods just have a diff. PCM i dont think there is anything screwing about tuning them.

**N20LT4** · 06-04-2008, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by hutch1999

The 98 f bods just have a diff. PCM i dont think there is anything screwing about tuning them.

Not according to this thread.

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88278

**knappbunch** · 06-05-2008, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by TedsB4Csled

What does the basic STS turbo run new $?

I've seen kits from people on ebay actual copmanies like speed shops selling them for around 3,995.00 plust trt out of texas has the intercooler or you can just do the methanol kit.