Hi! Is this a real WS6? (vin inside)

[Aetos]

I'll sell you mine for 15K. 02, Pewter WS6 Vert, A4, 38,500 miles, as close to new condition as you'll find. only driven in summer.... so around here, 6 weeks a year!

You realize my original post is over 1 year old

I have already had a bird for over a year, but thanks for the offer.

[JohnnyBs98WS6Rag]

Yes, 2G2FV22G8Y2149224 is real. It should be Silver, T-Tops, Auto. I have come up with some old data from American Sunroof and I am trying to start answering these kinds of questions. By the way, ASC converted the car on Feb. 25th, 2000.

PontiacGuy
@ American Sunroof

Whoa! WELCOME Pontiac Guy (from ASC). This is GREAT that someone is able and willing to offer this "service" to members here. Sent you a PM.

[speedyWS6]

many thanks pontiacguy...very very helpful!!!!!

[waldo]

You realize my original post is over 1 year old

I have already had a bird for over a year, but thanks for the offer.

My condolences I sold mine two weeks ago for 16K

[speedyWS6]

Hi...
and thanks for letting me know your thoughts on my vin Pontiacguy!

Could you elaborate on what you mean by "converted by american sunroof"

I am slightly puzzled. It sounds as though it has been in a shop for some sort of alteration? If i am being thick in someway, then i will have to appear thick, but i am not sure what you mean by this

Please let me know ASAP
Thanks
Trevor....

[JohnnyBs98WS6Rag]

Hi...
and thanks for letting me know your thoughts on my vin Pontiacguy!

Could you elaborate on what you mean by "converted by american sunroof"

I am slightly puzzled. It sounds as though it has been in a shop for some sort of alteration? If i am being thick in someway, then i will have to appear thick, but i am not sure what you mean by this

Please let me know ASAP
Thanks
Trevor....

ASC = American Sunroof Company (the company contracted by GM to perform WS6 conversions from 1998 - 2002).

[speedyWS6]

Hi Johnny...,

This is a perfect answer to what i was wondering and thanks very much!!

I had no idea that this was the case and it is obviously similar to the SLP work
done on other cars...Firebirds, i think??

Again...thanks and when i get the car i will post and let you all "have a look"!!

Trevor....

[jagfan93]

Yes, 2G2FV22G8Y2149224 is real. It should be Silver, T-Tops, Auto. I have come up with some old data from American Sunroof and I am trying to start answering these kinds of questions. By the way, ASC converted the car on Feb. 25th, 2000.

PontiacGuy
@ American Sunroof

Hi PontiacGuy, can you give me the ASC data for my car too =
2G2FV32G222128110.

[tawd77]

Hi, Could you please check mine to see what options, and if its a WS6? Thank you

2G2FV22P0T2211112

[justinmc978]

Hi, Could you please check mine to see what options, and if its a WS6? Thank you

2G2FV22P0T2211112

check your driver side door. when you open it, it has a sticker with a bunch of codes on it, one code will be WS6.

[tawd77]

check your driver side door. when you open it, it has a sticker with a bunch of codes on it, one code will be WS6.

I dont have the car, just the drivetrain from a car with that VIN.

[justinmc978]

I dont have the car, just the drivetrain from a car with that VIN.

UB3 CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER) GA(UB3)

UK3 ELECTRONIC SYSTEM,ACCESSORY CONTROL ELEK ACSRY CONT SYS(UK3)

U75 ANTENNA,POWER(CHROME) PWR ANT(EXPORT)(U75)
ANTENNA,POWER(CHROME) PWR ANT(U75)

VM3 LABEL INFORMATION CONSUMER, CONTAINS BPR IMP STANDARD FOR FRT 5 MPH & RR 5 MPH 5 MPH BUMPER INFO LABEL(VM3)

V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73)

WS6 PERFORMANCE PACKAGE,SPECIAL(MERCHANDISING OPTION) SPECIAL PERFORMANCE PKG(WS6)
WS9 MODEL CONVERSION FORMULA(MERCHANDISING OPTION) FORMULA(WS9)

W55 ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM OPYION E ENTERTAINMENT SYS OPT E(W55)

Y82 TRANS AM PKG BASE(MERCHANDISING OPTION) PKG,TRANS AM BASE(Y82)

1SA PACKAGE-OPTION 01 (1SA)

48Q MOLDING COLOR DK YELLOW GREEN MET (91) (48Q)

48U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY (48U)
EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,BLACK EMERALD MET (48U)
EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,DK YELLOW GREEN METALLIC (48U)

52I INTERIOR TRIM LIGHT NEUTRAL (52I)

522 TRIM COMBINATION - LEATHER, NEUTRAL (522)

6AB SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT LH SUSP(6AB)

7AB SPRING COMPTR SEL FRT RH SUSP(7AB)

8HS COMPONENT RR LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (8HS) SUSP(8HS)

9HS COMPONENT RR RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (9HS) SUSP(9HS)

AAA Unk.
AH3 ADJUSTER,SEAT,4-WAY MANUAL,DRIVER 4-WAY MAN D/SEAT ADJR(AH3)

AK5 RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT,INFLATABLE,DRIVER AND PASSENGER DRIVER & PASS F/SEAT INFL RST SYS(AK5)

AQ9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,RECLINING RECL FRT BKT ST,LUXURY(AQ9)

AU0 LOCK CONTROL,REMOTE ENTRY(KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM) REMOTE ENTRY LK CONT(AU0)

AU3 LOCK,SIDE DOOR,ELECTRIC ELEC S/D LK(AU3)

A31 WINDOW,ELECTRIC OPERATED,SIDE ELEC SI WDO(A31)

B35 COVERING,FLOOR MATS,REAR,CARPETED INSERT(COLOR COORDINATED) RR CPT INS FLR MATS(B35)

B84 ORNAMENTATION,EXTERIOR,BODY SIDE MOLDING BODY SI MLDG(B84)

CC1 ROOF,HATCH,REMOVABLE PANELS,GLASS HATCH RF(CC1)

C49 DEFOGGER,REAR WINDOW,ELECTRIC ELEC RR WDO DEFG(C49)

C60 AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60)

DE4 SUNSHADE,REMOVABLE HATCH ROOF HATCH RF S/S(DE4)

DG7 MIRROR,OUTSIDE,RH & LH REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC(PAINTED) O/S ELEC R/CON PAINTED MIR(DG7)

DL5 DECAL ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION ROADSIDE SERVICE INFO DECAL(DL5)

FE2 SUSPENSION SYSTEM,RIDE AND HANDLING RIDE & HANDLING SUSP(FE2)

FE9 FEDERAL EMISSION CERTIFICATION FED EMIS(FE9)

GU6 AXLE,REAR,3.42 RATIO 3.42R(GU6)

G80 AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP POSITRACTION L/SLIP R/AXL(G80)

IL2 TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IL2)

J65 BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC 4-WHL DISC BRK(J65)

KG9 GENERATOR,140 AMPERE 140 AMP(KG9)

K34 CRUISE CONTROL,AUTOMATIC,ELECTRONIC CRCONT(K34)

LT1 ENGINE-GAS, 8 CYL, 5.7L(5.7P),MFI,HO 5.7P(LT1)

MM6 TRANSMISSION MAN 6 SPD, BORG WARNER, 85MM, 1ST 2.66, 6TH 0.50, O/D 6-SPD M/TRANS(MM6)

MN6 TRANSMISSION,MANUAL 6-SPEED PROVISIONS(MERCHANDISING OPTION) 6-SPD M/TRANS PROVISIONS(MN6)

NF2 EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL,TIER 1 FED EMIS SYS(NF2)

NG5 REGISTRATION EMISSION, CERTIFICATION, FIFTY STATE (50) FIFTY STATE U.S. EMIS(NG5)

NP5 STEERING WHEEL,LEATHER WRAPPED LEATHER WRAPPED STRG WHL(NP5)

N66 WHEEL,STYLED ALUMINUM STYLED WHEEL ALUM(N66)

PBT Unk.
QD6 Unk.
QFK Unk.
R7N Unk.
R8V Unk.
STE PLANT CODE- ST THERESE, PQ, GM OF CANADA ST THERESE,GM OF CANADA PLANT CODE(STE)

T43 SPOILER,REAR RR SPLR(T43)

T96 LAMP,FRONT FOG FRT FOG LP(T96)
LAMP,FRONT FOG(USED WITH TOURING YP6) FRT FOG LP(T96)

[tawd77]

UB3 CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER) GA(UB3)

UK3 ELECTRONIC SYSTEM,ACCESSORY CONTROL ELEK ACSRY CONT SYS(UK3)

U75 ANTENNA,POWER(CHROME) PWR ANT(EXPORT)(U75)
ANTENNA,POWER(CHROME) PWR ANT(U75)

VM3 LABEL INFORMATION CONSUMER, CONTAINS BPR IMP STANDARD FOR FRT 5 MPH & RR 5 MPH 5 MPH BUMPER INFO LABEL(VM3)

V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73)

WS6 PERFORMANCE PACKAGE,SPECIAL(MERCHANDISING OPTION) SPECIAL PERFORMANCE PKG(WS6)
WS9 MODEL CONVERSION FORMULA(MERCHANDISING OPTION) FORMULA(WS9)

W55 ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM OPYION E ENTERTAINMENT SYS OPT E(W55)

Y82 TRANS AM PKG BASE(MERCHANDISING OPTION) PKG,TRANS AM BASE(Y82)

1SA PACKAGE-OPTION 01 (1SA)

48Q MOLDING COLOR DK YELLOW GREEN MET (91) (48Q)

48U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY (48U)
EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,BLACK EMERALD MET (48U)
EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,DK YELLOW GREEN METALLIC (48U)

52I INTERIOR TRIM LIGHT NEUTRAL (52I)

522 TRIM COMBINATION - LEATHER, NEUTRAL (522)

6AB SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT LH SUSP(6AB)

7AB SPRING COMPTR SEL FRT RH SUSP(7AB)

8HS COMPONENT RR LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (8HS) SUSP(8HS)

9HS COMPONENT RR RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (9HS) SUSP(9HS)

AAA Unk.
AH3 ADJUSTER,SEAT,4-WAY MANUAL,DRIVER 4-WAY MAN D/SEAT ADJR(AH3)

AK5 RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT,INFLATABLE,DRIVER AND PASSENGER DRIVER & PASS F/SEAT INFL RST SYS(AK5)

AQ9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,RECLINING RECL FRT BKT ST,LUXURY(AQ9)

AU0 LOCK CONTROL,REMOTE ENTRY(KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM) REMOTE ENTRY LK CONT(AU0)

AU3 LOCK,SIDE DOOR,ELECTRIC ELEC S/D LK(AU3)

A31 WINDOW,ELECTRIC OPERATED,SIDE ELEC SI WDO(A31)

B35 COVERING,FLOOR MATS,REAR,CARPETED INSERT(COLOR COORDINATED) RR CPT INS FLR MATS(B35)

B84 ORNAMENTATION,EXTERIOR,BODY SIDE MOLDING BODY SI MLDG(B84)

CC1 ROOF,HATCH,REMOVABLE PANELS,GLASS HATCH RF(CC1)

C49 DEFOGGER,REAR WINDOW,ELECTRIC ELEC RR WDO DEFG(C49)

C60 AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60)

DE4 SUNSHADE,REMOVABLE HATCH ROOF HATCH RF S/S(DE4)

DG7 MIRROR,OUTSIDE,RH & LH REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC(PAINTED) O/S ELEC R/CON PAINTED MIR(DG7)

DL5 DECAL ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION ROADSIDE SERVICE INFO DECAL(DL5)

FE2 SUSPENSION SYSTEM,RIDE AND HANDLING RIDE & HANDLING SUSP(FE2)

FE9 FEDERAL EMISSION CERTIFICATION FED EMIS(FE9)

GU6 AXLE,REAR,3.42 RATIO 3.42R(GU6)

G80 AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP POSITRACTION L/SLIP R/AXL(G80)

IL2 TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IL2)

J65 BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC 4-WHL DISC BRK(J65)

KG9 GENERATOR,140 AMPERE 140 AMP(KG9)

K34 CRUISE CONTROL,AUTOMATIC,ELECTRONIC CRCONT(K34)

LT1 ENGINE-GAS, 8 CYL, 5.7L(5.7P),MFI,HO 5.7P(LT1)

MM6 TRANSMISSION MAN 6 SPD, BORG WARNER, 85MM, 1ST 2.66, 6TH 0.50, O/D 6-SPD M/TRANS(MM6)

MN6 TRANSMISSION,MANUAL 6-SPEED PROVISIONS(MERCHANDISING OPTION) 6-SPD M/TRANS PROVISIONS(MN6)

NF2 EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL,TIER 1 FED EMIS SYS(NF2)

NG5 REGISTRATION EMISSION, CERTIFICATION, FIFTY STATE (50) FIFTY STATE U.S. EMIS(NG5)

NP5 STEERING WHEEL,LEATHER WRAPPED LEATHER WRAPPED STRG WHL(NP5)

N66 WHEEL,STYLED ALUMINUM STYLED WHEEL ALUM(N66)

PBT Unk.
QD6 Unk.
QFK Unk.
R7N Unk.
R8V Unk.
STE PLANT CODE- ST THERESE, PQ, GM OF CANADA ST THERESE,GM OF CANADA PLANT CODE(STE)

T43 SPOILER,REAR RR SPLR(T43)

T96 LAMP,FRONT FOG FRT FOG LP(T96)
LAMP,FRONT FOG(USED WITH TOURING YP6) FRT FOG LP(T96)

Thank you VERY much!!!!!

[new_ws6_guy]

I was researching a WS6 that I am going to buy and found this site. What a great wealth of information there is here!

I was wondering if anybody could help me determine if I'm buying a genuine WS6 or not? I've never heard of a WS6 before I found this one. I was looking for either a TA or a Z28 for my son and came across what the dealer is calling a WS6...drove it...loved it...and put a deposit on it till my mechanic can check it out.

Vin:2G2FV22PXV2205921
I'm going to post some pictures that may hopefully help. Thank you!

[new_ws6_guy]

Also....they advertised it as a 1997 WS6....I'm not up on all the years and what they look like but the front end doesn't look like a 97 to me....wtf? Am I crazy?

[justinmc978]

Also....they advertised it as a 1997 WS6....I'm not up on all the years and what they look like but the front end doesn't look like a 97 to me....wtf? Am I crazy?

Vehicle: FIREBIRD 2 DR
Year: 1997
Build Date: 1996-09-13

UA6 THEFT DETERRENT SYSTEM ANTI-THEFT(UA6)
9,571
UB3 CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER) GA(UB3)
27,775
U75 ANTENNA,POWER(CHROME) PWR ANT(U75)
13,203
VK3 LICENSE PLATE,FRONT MOUNTING PACKAGE FRT LIC PLT MTG PKG(VK3)
20,789
VM3 LABEL INFORMATION CONSUMER, CONTAINS BPR IMP STANDARD FOR FRT 5 MPH & RR 5 MPH 5 MPH BUMPER INFO LABEL(VM3)
23,817
V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73)
27,538
WS6 PERFORMANCE PACKAGE,SPECIAL(MERCHANDISING OPTION) SPECIAL PERFORMANCE PKG(WS6)
3,371 WS9 MODEL CONVERSION FORMULA(MERCHANDISING OPTION) FORMULA(WS9)
11,411
W53 ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM OPYION C ENTERTAINMENT SYS OPT C(W53)
10,343
W66 FORMULA OPTION(MERCHANDISING OPTION) FORMULA(W66)
2,716
1SA PACKAGE-OPTION 01 (1SA)
12,835
48U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY (48U)
EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,BLACK EMERALD MET (48U)
EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,DK YELLOW GREEN METALLIC (48U)
2,419
52B TRIM COMBINATION CLOTH, LT NEUTRAL (52B)
3,027
52I INTERIOR TRIM LIGHT NEUTRAL (52I)
4,598
6AA SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT LH SUSP(6AA)
6
7AA SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT RH SUSP(7AA)
6
8HR COMPONENT RR LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (8HR) SUSP(8HR)
458
9HR COMPONENT RR RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (9HR) SUSP(9HR)
458
AAA Unk. 26,440
AG1 ADJUSTER FRT ST POWER, MULTI-DIRECTIONAL, DRIVER MULTI-DIRECTIONAL PWR D/SEAT ADJR(AG1)
3,259
AK5 RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT,INFLATABLE PASS SI INFL RST SYS(AK5)
RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT,INFLATABLE,DRIVER AND PASSENGER DRIVER & PASS F/SEAT INFL RST SYS(AK5)
27,775
AR9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,MANUAL RECLINING(EUROPEAN STYLE) MAN RECL FRT BKT ST,DELUXE(AR9)
19,915
AU0 LOCK CONTROL,REMOTE ENTRY(KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM) REMOTE ENTRY LK CONT(AU0)
18,133
AU3 LOCK,SIDE DOOR,ELECTRIC ELEC S/D LK(AU3)
25,089
A31 WINDOW,ELECTRIC OPERATED,SIDE ELEC SI WDO(A31)
WINDOW,POWER OPERATED,ALL DOORS PWR WINDOWS(A31)
24,745
C49 DEFOGGER,REAR WINDOW,ELECTRIC ELEC RR WDO DEFG(C49)
25,584
C60 AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60)
27,775
DG7 MIRROR,OUTSIDE,RH & LH REMOTE CONTROL,ELECTRIC(PAINTED) O/S ELEC R/CON PAINTED MIR(DG7)
24,508
DL5 DECAL ROADSIDE SERVICE INFORMATION ROADSIDE SERVICE INFO DECAL(DL5)
26,440
FE2 SUSPENSION SYSTEM,RIDE AND HANDLING RIDE & HANDLING SUSP(FE2)
11,411
FE9 FEDERAL EMISSION CERTIFICATION FED EMIS(FE9)
24,874
GU6 AXLE,REAR,3.42 RATIO 3.42R(GU6)
7,720
G80 AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP POSITRACTION L/SLIP R/AXL(G80)
15,688
IPB TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IPB)
19,321
J65 BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC 4-WHL DISC BRK(J65)
15,688
KG9 GENERATOR,140 AMPERE 140 AMP(KG9)
11,411
LT1 ENGINE-GAS, 8 CYL, 5.7L(5.7P),MFI,HO 5.7P(LT1)
11,411
MM6 TRANSMISSION MAN 6 SPD, BORG WARNER, 85MM, 1ST 2.66, 6TH 0.50, O/D 6-SPD M/TRANS(MM6)
3,926
MN6 TRANSMISSION,MANUAL 6-SPEED PROVISIONS(MERCHANDISING OPTION) 6-SPD M/TRANS PROVISIONS(MN6)
3,933
NF2 EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL,TIER 1 FED EMIS SYS(NF2)
24,874
N36 STEERING WHEEL,SPORT-4 SPOKES SPORT STRG WHL(N36)
12,074
N66 WHEEL,STYLED ALUMINUM STYLED WHEEL ALUM(N66)
3,371
PBT Unk. 3,371
QFK Unk. 3,371
R7N Unk. 21,467
R8V Unk. 3,108
R9Z Unk. 2,761
STE PLANT CODE- ST THERESE, PQ, GM OF CANADA ST THERESE,GM OF CANADA PLANT CODE(STE)
27,775
T78 HEADLAMPS CONTROL DELETE T78)

wow, this is a real Lt1 Formula WS6, very rare, and the front end is correct for a 1997, (1993-1997 v6 and Formula Firebirds had this front clip)

[new_ws6_guy]

Thank you very much for that quick response Justin!!

So $3750 is a good price for that car you think?

[Firebird Phoenix]

Thanks for the replies guys.
Here are pictures of the car.
It's a '98 with 49k miles and they're asking $14,999
Anything look odd/out of place on the car? (other than a blurry back pic :/)
It does seem to have the rear end ws6 badge, but those are pretty easy to duplicate.

Am I the only one who noticed the front turn signal is a rear red one, and not amber? Kinda odd...

[02fhc009]

Good eye! Could just be a burnt out and blackened bulb making the lens look darker... just being optimistic.

[justinmc978]

Thank you very much for that quick response Justin!!

So $3750 is a good price for that car you think?

from a dealorship that seems low, and an LT1 WS6 Formula is the rarest of all WS6 fourth gens, i would have to see it in person/drive it to know how much I would be willing to pay for it though,