Roush 427 R ?

[2-bowties&abird]

ya, the 03 cobra wasnt ahead or anything.

if it helps you sleep at night.

yup i knew that was coming, always have to fall back on a cobra. if you compare the 2 n/a the 4.6 is a joke. just about .3 liters from being a v6. lol

[N20LT4]

ya, the 03 cobra wasnt ahead or anything.

if it helps you sleep at night.

Hey Trick, i'll be coming up to the San Jose area (from Sacramento) to visit Great America soon. I'd love to give you a detailed view of a '93 Z's rear-end lol

[TrickStang37]

Hey Trick, i'll be coming up to the San Jose area (from Sacramento) to visit Great America soon. I'd love to give you a detailed view of a '93 Z's rear-end lol

is it stock?

[N20LT4]

Below Avator <------- yeah, it's stock

[TrickStang37]

yup i knew that was coming, always have to fall back on a cobra. if you compare the 2 n/a the 4.6 is a joke. just about .3 liters from being a v6. lol

The 4v 4.6 NA isnt that bad, not quite on par with the LS1, but not a "joke" either.

[jad628]

MM&FF has always been know to run a bit quicker than the average guy. There's multiple vids of stock 427 R's losing to bolt-on LS1's. Hence the 109mph trap. And remember I said 'stock', so if he's modded the terms will be different.

Just one example. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/R...oush_95156.htm

That video is a prime example of two people who are not very wise. Doing that in traffic is the reason why street racing costs you your car.......if your lucky.

Don't do that in traffic!!!!

[Danger731]

I'de be pissed if I paid that kinda money to stay even w a bolt on f body.

[N20LT4]

I'de be pissed if I paid that kinda money to stay even w a bolt on f body.

Pissed and Embarrased

[1 RedHot TransAm]

Pissed and Embarrased

[Midnight02]

12.3x @ 109 mph with a dead hook 1.76 60" time. These numbers are absolutely ideal conditions:

1. No traction issues
2. A very skilled driver behind the wheel of an automatic
3. Great DA at E-town (a track known for spitting out times that are typically pretty good)

I'm surprised that even the Ford tuners are struggling to toss out a car that consistently can perform with an '03 or '04 Cobra. They advertised 385 hp at the crank on those cars and I imagine MOST would dyno within 5-10 hp of the 427R (and it's advertised 435 crank hp).

Finding a 427R bone stock on the street shouldn't be much of a concern for a good driver in a bolt on LS1....the race would likely be VERY close. That being said, the 427R should respond relatively well to mods (stall, gear swap, pulley swap, etc.).

[TrickStang37]

I'de be pissed if I paid that kinda money to stay even w a bolt on f body.

you dont spend that kind of money on a car like that to keep up with bolt on fbody's. you spend that kind of money on a car because that kind of money isnt all that much to you.

[TrickStang37]

12.3x @ 109 mph with a dead hook 1.76 60" time. These numbers are absolutely ideal conditions:

1. No traction issues
2. A very skilled driver behind the wheel of an automatic
3. Great DA at E-town (a track known for spitting out times that are typically pretty good)

I'm surprised that even the Ford tuners are struggling to toss out a car that consistently can perform with an '03 or '04 Cobra. They advertised 385 hp at the crank on those cars and I imagine MOST would dyno within 5-10 hp of the 427R (and it's advertised 435 crank hp).

Finding a 427R bone stock on the street shouldn't be much of a concern for a good driver in a bolt on LS1....the race would likely be VERY close. That being said, the 427R should respond relatively well to mods (stall, gear swap, pulley swap, etc.).

what was the DA on those runs?

[N20LT4]

you dont spend that kind of money on a car like that to keep up with bolt on fbody's. you spend that kind of money on a car because that kind of money isnt all that much to you.

Totally disagree. You spend that money because you really wan't a Roush 427R. It's upscale, it's rare, and most of all, it's fast. And then you get ran by an automatic LS1 with just a lid and exhaust. Has to hurt a little.

12.3x @ 109 mph with a dead hook 1.76 60" time. These numbers are absolutely ideal conditions:

Finding a 427R bone stock on the street shouldn't be much of a concern for a good driver in a bolt on LS1....the race would likely be VERY close. That being said, the 427R should respond relatively well to mods (stall, gear swap, pulley swap, etc.).

Don't get me wrong, it's a decent performer. But I expected much more from it.

[flash]

Totally disagree. You spend that money because you really wan't a Roush 427R. It's upscale, it's rare, and most of all, it's fast. And then you get ran by an automatic LS1 with just a lid and exhaust. Has to hurt a little.

Don't get me wrong, it's a decent performer. But I expected much more from it.

Im pretty sure those cars were made for road racing not blasting down the 1/4 mile.So to be setup for twistys and still make a bottom 12.xx pass is still pretty good imo.

[Danger731]

Originally Posted by TrickStang37
you dont spend that kind of money on a car like that to keep up with bolt on fbody's. you spend that kind of money on a car because that kind of money isnt all that much to you.

Totally disagree. You spend that money because you really wan't a Roush 427R. It's upscale, it's rare, and most of all, it's fast. And then you get ran by an automatic LS1 with just a lid and exhaust. Has to hurt a little.

I agree, you get a car that says 427R on the side for specific reasons and one of them doesn't come true against a car you can now buy for 10 grand.

[dpinson]

Umm yeah.Thats an aftermarket charger from a aftermarket company,but good try.

Also dont you have nitrous?So nitrous is fine,but you draw the line at supercharging.Makes sense to me.
i dont need nitrous to hang with those cars stock and if they barely beat me woop te doo
i dont have a problem with power adders i just think its funny that they had to use one to barely keep up


To what?


oooooooooohhh

Your right there.Im sure not many are ever going to touch that,but it shows it can be done.

oooooooooo

[dpinson]

moral victories always come from the losers

come see who loses if you want, your little stang aint gonna take me

[dpinson]

I'de be pissed if I paid that kinda money to stay even w a bolt on f body.

yeah i know thats why we always have these guys on here talking shit because they are mad

ive had my share of run ins with them and they always seem to get mad when all im doing is speaking truths

[TrickStang37]

come see who loses if you want, your little stang aint gonna take me

[N20LT4]

Im pretty sure those cars were made for road racing not blasting down the 1/4 mile.So to be setup for twistys and still make a bottom 12.xx pass is still pretty good imo.

road race only car huh...okay.