Cobra's Wow!

**Hot Black Trans-Am** · 08-22-2007, 09:25 PM

Who really gives a crap about how the power is made as long as the power comes on strong and long! I'm not talking about the Vtech 6000-9000 rpm window either.

I'm looking forward to the new muscle/pony car war too!

**camarojunky74** · 08-23-2007, 08:03 AM

so.... Chevy is the best, okay im happy

**djvaly** · 08-23-2007, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by slims00ls1z28

Yep pretty sickening that 2 mods (pulley and exhaust) can put them close to that mark.

a friend of mine has an '03 Corbra, puts down 420rwhp with pulley and catback, with 15% loss for manual transmission, he's at 500 hp at the crank///

it takes heads/cam/full exhaust/Fast 90 and a good tune to get that on an LS1. termis are our biggest competition and supras, other than the c6z06...

**Crimson Sin** · 08-23-2007, 12:16 PM

I have never owned an S/C'd Cobra ( feh I wish !) but I had a 93 Cobra... god I still miss that car.. I have raced a few 01-04s with my 01 SS, with the typical results (win some/ lose some ) and I gotta say, if I could find an 03-04 Cobra, my SS would mysteriously disappear.. Numbers don't lie, and Damn, those are drop dead sexy cars.. I LOVE my SS. ...now if I could only afford both

**camarojunky74** · 08-23-2007, 12:17 PM

ummm... my buddys has a cam and full exhaust and does 415!

**djvaly** · 08-23-2007, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by camarojunky74

ummm... my buddys has a cam and full exhaust and does 415!

stock = 300rwhp
cam = 25rwhp
full exhaust = 35rwhp
total = 360rwhp... 415 to the crank yeah...
you need heads and a good tune to get into 420rwhp

**camarojunky74** · 08-23-2007, 12:39 PM

sure thing albert einstein! next time i need power gains i will consult the know it all!

oh my bad he has been messing with hp tuners himself learning it etc. but no intake or heads.

oh btw stock hp numbers were 323 to the ground

**djvaly** · 08-23-2007, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by camarojunky74

sure thing albert einstein! next time i need power gains i will consult the know it all!

oh my bad he has been messing with hp tuners himself learning it etc. but no intake or heads.

oh btw stock hp numbers were 323 to the ground

your numbers are off, have a nice day.

**camarojunky74** · 08-23-2007, 01:23 PM

oooooookay

**djvaly** · 08-23-2007, 01:27 PM

there's no need to be rude kid. there's one thing to have a difference of opinion but another to be rude. your last warning.

**camarojunky74** · 08-23-2007, 01:38 PM

i appologize for being rude! but i dont apprectiate the "kid" comment either.

you have my sincere apology.

**djvaly** · 08-23-2007, 01:39 PM

very well, let the thread go on with it's original topic. thanks!

**djvaly** · 08-23-2007, 01:40 PM

I agree, termis are notorious from the factory, just a tune and pulley and they are tough on the street.

**camarojunky74** · 08-23-2007, 01:41 PM

okay back on track, in todays breaking news paris hilton stubbs her toe on a lawn chair.
she will be in the hospital over night for observation!

**xinthenight** · 08-23-2007, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by JayplaySS2

You can get modded ones already for $21-25K with less miles and in far better shape than an F-bod. Not that price matters. Check out Ebay, 2002 F-bods with 20K on them are in the $20K's too though nobody is buying them obviously. You are trying to say a $ 9K F-bod is the same as a 20K Cobra? Genuine. I guess you are trying to say also that 3K buys you a forged bottom WORTH working with? Please. I was going that route with my SS before I sold it.

Just this weekend I helped my bud and his 2000 Z28 w/58K on it install new T-top seals since they were leaking like crazy. Quailty. No offense.
Dont take offense to this. My next car will be a C6 Z06 with FI. Prices will come down a bit with the LS3 Vette out. Hope my roof doesnt blow off though.....

My Z28 has about 150k miles on it and I have been taking them(t-tops) off at least 4 times a week for trips around town and to school...and they STILL don't leak at all. So that's your friends fault there, it's called taking care of your car.

Let me go find some girl in town with a mustang(about 90% of the mustang owners I've seen are girls) and tell her to rev her engine until it blows up. Then I'll come here and tell you "Wanna talk about quality? I know a girl that only has 3k miles on her cobra and she's already blown her engine" because that is EXACTLY what you're doing.

And on topic about Cobra vs. Camaro. Stock, I'd pick camaro any day of the week. Sure a version has a stock supercharger, but I'm fairly sure you could buy your own(and a stronger one) and put it into a Z28 or SS and it'd be even better AND CHEAPER. I also love the f body cars, it's so much harder to have a good system that goes into the trunk. I love to listen to music while I drive, and the hatch makes it that much better.

I used to have a strong hatred for all mustangs besides 85 and older. I just couldn't stand the look of one, and wanted to race every one I seen. I just...hated them. But now, I have grown some respect for them the past few weeks(not because of this thread, lol) but I don't ever plan on buying one.

**N20LT4** · 08-24-2007, 11:12 AM

Supercharged 4.6's are nothing new, they've been around waaay before the terminators came about. Guys in my city 10 years ago were custom fabbing supercharger kits for their '96-97 Cobra's (there were none available @ the time) to run with me and my buddies cam only LT1's. Just build a solid bottom end and run the power adder of choice and "termy's" are nothing to worry about. It's that easy.

**secondgearscratch** · 08-24-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by N20LT4

Supercharged 4.6's are nothing new, they've been around waaay before the terminators came about. Guys in my city 10 years ago were custom fabbing supercharger kits for their '96-97 Cobra's (there were none available @ the time) to run with me and my buddies cam only LT1's. Just build a solid bottom end and run the power adder of choice and "termy's" are nothing to worry about. It's that easy.

i agree. and i really like cobras, but what always chaps my ass is the fact that i (who doesnt make excuses) simply brings up forced induction on an lsx. the response is usually "dont get butt hurt cuz you dont have a blower".

take the two engines, and put the two biggest turbos or pullied roots blowers on them, same size, but the biggest.

you cannot tell me with the same compression ratio that the lsx wouldnt be more powerful. it still goes back to cubic inches doesnt it? the torque would be outrageous.

that is precisely why i would kill for a kb twin screw on top of my ls1.

**N20LT4** · 08-24-2007, 02:43 PM

This is a link to my brothers '01 Formula. He made 462rwhp with only 8psi boost, which is what the terminator sits @ boost-wise in stock form, with his only other mods being a ported MAF and Hooker cat-back at the time. The rest of the car was completely stock down to the manifolds & y-pipe. A comparably modded Cobra won't make anywhere near that without more bolt-ons and/or a pulley. He now has a forged 6.0 with Patriot heads pushing 621 with the same D1SC.

http://www.forcefedperformance.com/c...ide.asp?key=21

**secondgearscratch** · 08-24-2007, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by N20LT4

This is a link to my brothers '01 Formula. He made 462rwhp with only 8psi boost, which is what the terminator sits @ boost-wise in stock form, with his only other mods being a ported MAF and Hooker cat-back at the time. The rest of the car was completely stock down to the manifolds & y-pipe. A comparably modded Cobra won't make anywhere near that without more bolt-ons and/or a pulley. He now has a forged 6.0 with Patriot heads pushing 621 with the same D1SC.

http://www.forcefedperformance.com/c...ide.asp?key=21

wow. im speechless. that is a great looking car, and the power is fantastic for the little mods he has in addition to the procharger.

so no lt's, no high flow fuel pump, nothing like that?

oops just saw where you said completely stock minus what you listed...sorry.

**JayplaySS2** · 08-24-2007, 02:50 PM

Most of you car guys know what you are talking about but a few of you are so uneducated you should even post. I HAD my LS1 with CNC LS6 Heads/233/239/600/603 TSP/ ASP/ LT's/ SFC/ Full bolt ons custom tune with 431 rwhp AND a 100/150 shot though I only ran the 100 a few times (look up my welcome here I have a pic of my SS). My Cobra (at only 19lbs) walked right away from 3rd on with the 100 shot. 3 seperate races.

If 650rwhp on pump gas and the power to run 9's with not even lifting a valve cover is NOT impressive you are brain dead. You guys DONT own a Cobra and you are preaching to me and I have owned both. The Camaro was in a word...... boring after all those mods. I remember punching it in 2nd gear and leaning foward and backwards real fast to hope it would keep me in my seat. NOPE. So to that LS1 with a blower thing. Build it, bring it and hope it runs better than my little 281. Can you trap 136mph with 6K in mods? Didnt think so. Good thread though BTW.

I have a buddy right now building a procharged 2000 Z28 and we will be installing a 100 shot ON TOP of that and then watch who wins. Im gonna walk ever so slowly from him. Dam its gotta be sad reading this and most of you only run 12's. I walked hard my STS 99 Z28 that he thought would be close. Sad really. I have worked on LSX's more than i have my own Cobra.

Here is the sad truth, nobody wants a 5-10K LS1. That is the car they drive UNTIL they get the Cobra or the Z06. Fact. Sorry. Give me ANY LS1 and ANY Cobra and $5K and the Cobra will walk the F-body. Sorry. While having a higher resale value and looking the part.

This is like therapy for me. Damn common sense is so hard to come by here.