Stock 02 GT with drag radials and gears?

**big hammer** · 11-11-2008, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

Not my fault most people are morons. That would maybe cost 3k, Not really sure since the 05+ market is a total rip off.

i'm pretty sure it would be more than 3k

**JwMonE99** · 11-11-2008, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

TKO tranny.

yup probably.
I never did learn, what so great about the TKO?

**mogs01gt** · 11-11-2008, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by big hammer

i'm pretty sure it would be more than 3k

No way, 3k would be max.. I barely have 5k in my car.

**big hammer** · 11-11-2008, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

No way, 3k would be max.. I barely have 5k in my car.

you run 11's?

**big hammer** · 11-11-2008, 09:34 AM

AAR lightweight radiator support $200
Pulleys $300
Short belt $50
Shorty headers $350
off road x pipe $200
OEM clutch $0? unless replaced
Aluminum flywheel $250
Weld 15" wheels $500
1 piece steel driveshaft $250
Front and rear lower control arms $150
Roush springs (modified by AAR) $250
Stock original shocks and struts
Line loc $100
Short throw shifter $150
2 step launch control ? no clue
Cold air intake (Modular Depot) $300
SCT x-cal2 tuned by AAR $200
IMRC eliminator plates (not port matched) $250
4:56 gears $200
GT 500 throttle body $300
AAR lightweight rear brake assembly $250
Light weight front brake assembly $250
Slicks and skinnies $600
Battery in stock location (Not OEM battery) $100
3200 pounds with driver
1 Kirkey seat $150
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$5350 and i think i was being quite fair?

**Cayenne97** · 11-11-2008, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

looks like your buddy's GT is fucked up or he cant drive. I run 12s on radials and road race suspension. There are plenty of dragrace setup cars running high 11s and 12s on bolt ons.

Ehh, if your referring to the '99-04 GT, no 2-valve stang is going to hit 11's with bolt-ons! No friggin' way!! High 11's takes ported intake, heads, cams, all the nick nacks plus suspension/gears. And even then i've seen several guys still linger in the very low 12's at around 109-111. 11's takes a lot of work in a 2v if you wanna do it naturally aspirated.

**lemons12** · 11-11-2008, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

No way, 3k would be max.. I barely have 5k in my car.

i have right at 5k in my with appearance and go fast mods.. i made over 400rwhp through a stalled a4 with 410s though...

Originally Posted by big hammer

you run 11's?

i do

**mogs01gt** · 11-11-2008, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by big hammer

AAR lightweight radiator support $200
Pulleys $300
Short belt $50
Shorty headers $350
off road x pipe $200
OEM clutch $0? unless replaced
Aluminum flywheel $250
Weld 15" wheels $500
1 piece steel driveshaft $250
Front and rear lower control arms $150
Roush springs (modified by AAR) $250
Stock original shocks and struts
Line loc $100
Short throw shifter $150
2 step launch control ? no clue
Cold air intake (Modular Depot) $300
SCT x-cal2 tuned by AAR $200
IMRC eliminator plates (not port matched) $250
4:56 gears $200
GT 500 throttle body $300
AAR lightweight rear brake assembly $250
Light weight front brake assembly $250
Slicks and skinnies $600
Battery in stock location (Not OEM battery) $100
3200 pounds with driver
1 Kirkey seat $150
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$5350 and i think i was being quite fair?

Of course you can skew the numbers by using all high numbers. 300 for pullies?? come on now.

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

Ehh, if your referring to the '99-04 GT, no 2-valve stang is going to hit 11's with bolt-ons! No friggin' way!! High 11's takes ported intake, heads, cams, all the nick nacks plus suspension/gears. And even then i've seen several guys still linger in the very low 12's at around 109-111. 11's takes a lot of work in a 2v if you wanna do it naturally aspirated.

umm no it doesnt. People are running high 11s with stock heads, cams and standard bolt ons. You guys really need to get off the internet and learn about pony cars.

**lemons12** · 11-11-2008, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

Of course you can skew the numbers by using all high numbers. 300 for pullies?? come on now.

umm no it doesnt. People are running high 11s with stock heads, cams and standard bolt ons. You guys really need to get off the internet and learn about pony cars.

there were quite a few things he went cheap on.. gears for 200... and you stil got to get them installed.. 600 for slicks and skinnies, with rims it would be more like 800..

AAR lightweight radiator support $200
Pulleys $300
Short belt $50
Shorty headers $350
off road x pipe $200
OEM clutch $0? unless replaced
Aluminum flywheel $250
Weld 15" wheels $500
1 piece steel driveshaft $250
Front and rear lower control arms $150
Roush springs (modified by AAR) $250
Stock original shocks and struts
Line loc $100
Short throw shifter $150
2 step launch control ? no clue
Cold air intake (Modular Depot) $300
SCT x-cal2 tuned by AAR $200
IMRC eliminator plates (not port matched) $250
4:56 gears $200
GT 500 throttle body $300
AAR lightweight rear brake assembly $250
Light weight front brake assembly $250
Slicks and skinnies $600
Battery in stock location (Not OEM battery) $100
3200 pounds with driver
1 Kirkey seat $150

**lemons12** · 11-11-2008, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

umm no it doesnt. People are running high 11s with stock heads, cams and standard bolt ons. You guys really need to get off the internet and learn about pony cars.

with track cars.. major weight reduction, low gears, and huge stalls.. most people that DD it takes a lot to get outta the 12s..

standard bolt on ls1s arent hitting 11s dude.. come on

**Cayenne97** · 11-11-2008, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by mogs01gt

umm no it doesnt. People are running high 11s with stock heads, cams and standard bolt ons. You guys really need to get off the internet and learn about pony cars.

Please show me proof of a 2-valve with stock heads/cams running in the 11's?

U are out of your mind, no pun intended. Never in a million years my friend.

**lemons12** · 11-11-2008, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

Please show me proof of a 2-valve with stock heads/cams running in the 11's?

U are out of your mind, no pun intended. Never in a million years my friend.

it is possible, i have seen it.. but these are not street driven cars by any means

**Cayenne97** · 11-11-2008, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by lemons12

it is possible, i have seen it.. but these are not street driven cars by any means

Okay there's two people. I still wan't to 'see' proof (i.e. write up, video) of a two-valve going 11's bolt-on only in a 99-04 body. The 11-second N/A cars i've seen over the years have all had full mods...meaning everything touched, including suspension, tires and weight reduction. I'm hard pressed to believe 11's with just bolt-ons. For example, the fastest naturally-aspirated 2v GT wen't 11's with h/c/i.

**karpetcm** · 11-11-2008, 06:30 PM

Ive been off the internet and been to many drag race events, 99-04 GT's with standard bolt on's will not hit 11's at all not even close. If you consider nitrous a bolt on and juicing alot, motor wont last with really good suspension along with tires and gears, MAYBE. When i say nitrous you can guess it wont be 100 shot. Not to put down the mustang but a car that pushes about 220-230 rwhp with LT's headers, no cats, exhuast, intake and tune they push about 250-260 rwhp tops, with about 150 shot of nitrous which should put them about 380 whp give or take depending on tune and other factors with really good tires and good gearing and a great driver you might hit 11's but its all a guess and from what i know for a fact regular bolt on mustangs do not hit 11's. To go 11's is not just having power its a combinations of many things, cant just dump a bunch of power in a car and not do suspension work amoung other things to get you there. I dont mean no disrespect but i know what ive seen and although there not slow cars its alot of time, money and effort going 11's for those cars.

**lemons12** · 11-11-2008, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

Okay there's two people. I still wan't to 'see' proof (i.e. write up, video) of a two-valve going 11's bolt-on only in a 99-04 body. The 11-second N/A cars i've seen over the years have all had full mods...meaning everything touched, including suspension, tires and weight reduction. I'm hard pressed to believe 11's with just bolt-ons. For example, the fastest naturally-aspirated 2v GT wen't 11's with h/c/i.

ill try to find it... the one i saw was red.. and yea he had drag lites and stuff.. and weight reduction.. suspension also..

just like most all bolt on cars that hold a record on here have.. whats the difference?

**Johns00Z28** · 11-11-2008, 08:50 PM

I think an 11 sec NA GT between the years of 96-04 is more of a rarity than the norm. http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...out/index.html

**Cayenne97** · 11-11-2008, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Johns00Z28

I think an 11 sec NA GT between the years of 96-04 is more of a rarity than the norm. http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...out/index.html

An Extreeeem rarity!

**lemons12** · 11-11-2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Johns00Z28

I think an 11 sec NA GT between the years of 96-04 is more of a rarity than the norm. http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...out/index.html

it most DEFINITELY is NOT the norm, and is rarer than rare.. but it has happened..

bolt on fbodies are in the 10s..

why cant gts be in the 11s?

**Cayenne97** · 11-11-2008, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by lemons12

it most DEFINITELY is NOT the norm, and is rarer than rare.. but it has happened..

bolt on fbodies are in the 10s..

why cant gts be in the 11s?

Because the GT is a totally different animal. 4.6 Two-valves do not respond well to bolt-ons, which is typical for a small displacement engine. True it takes more than just horsepower. Suspension, drivetrain, weight reduction etc. play a part. But those motors just aren't stout enough to get the job done. From my experience with these engines, the examples you see in the attached MM&FF article is what it really takes to run 11's N/A.

**lemons12** · 11-11-2008, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Cayenne97

Because the GT is a totally different animal. 4.6 Two-valves do not respond well to bolt-ons, which is typical for a small displacement engine. True it takes more than just horsepower. Suspension, drivetrain, weight reduction etc. play a part. But those motors just aren't stout enough to get the job done. From my experience with these engines, the examples you see in the attached MM&FF article is what it really takes to run 11's N/A.

look at the race weight though.. most are in 3300lb range... im talking car in the 2600ish lb range... cars made for the strip, not street... thats where i think you misunderstood me.. HELL no i full weight one couldnt do it..