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Thread: 94Z vs 99TA: NEED OPINIONS
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05-11-2006, 03:55 PM #1Hark_ZGuest
94Z vs 99TA: NEED OPINIONS
Well this is kind of difficult because its me racing my best friend. He talks so much smack though about how crappy my LT1 is and how his LS1 is godly..
The race will be on the street, not the highway. It will most likely be a dig to about 80-90ish.
My current mods: intake,exhaust,3.73's,shift kit,tuning
his car: 99 TA M6, lid, smooth bellows,catback
I am very consistent with my a4 with launching; he is a good driver. I know that my car is definitely stronger in the first 2 gears and I should get at least a 1.5 car lead right away but I'm just nervous about it. My car comes out of the shop with a new shift kit on it soon so how will this work out?
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05-11-2006, 04:07 PM #2Originally Posted by Hark_Z1995 Camaro Z-28
Black/Neutral|A4 GU5
Modifications:
Borla, MAC Mid's, SLP Level 1 Suspension with Prokit, SLP STB, SLP CAI, 1LE Elbow,Phillips HID, Advanced Induction 180cc Heads/224 Cam,Built 355, Yank 3200
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05-11-2006, 04:13 PM #3Hark_ZGuestOriginally Posted by LS1 Eddie
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05-11-2006, 04:15 PM #4Originally Posted by Hark_Z
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05-11-2006, 04:17 PM #5Hark_ZGuestOriginally Posted by Street Lethal
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05-11-2006, 04:24 PM #6Originally Posted by Hark_Z
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05-11-2006, 04:29 PM #7Hark_ZGuestOriginally Posted by Street Lethal
13's?
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05-11-2006, 04:37 PM #8Originally Posted by Hark_Z
What you'll want to do (after the stall), and after you save up some more; get you're hands on a CC-306 cam, and port match you're heads and intake (if not done already). W/some additional tuning, and you'll be in the 11's, guaranteed!
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05-11-2006, 06:23 PM #9Hark_ZGuest
Damn I need to do a sig..
I already bought a H/C package. Yes before full bolt ons..it was a good deal!
basically it it fully built heads:
Ferrea 6000 Valves 2.05/1.6 (284 cfm at .6)
+ custom grind Billet cam: 2.32/2.32 .567 lift, 108 LSA
So I have more power on the way, just gotta catch up with my other mods .
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05-11-2006, 06:30 PM #10
2-3 cars on bolt on Ls1's??
Ls1's with what bolt on?
Those 3.73's making that much of a difference???
I raced Lt1 Z's and won by at least a car everytime with me being completly stock. Them being A4's with your same mods minus the 3.73's.
What tuning you have done?
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05-11-2006, 06:37 PM #11Hark_ZGuest
Just a pcm tune. my car is very easy to launch- just chirp the tires and my 1st gear pulls HARD. My car came stock with 2.73's so its a huge jump. Ya gotta think most LT1's stock keep with LS1's till at least 40ish..and LT1's bring their torque out faster in the powerband-3500ish compared to 4500ish. Do a gear swap to 3.73's and it makes a world of difference. Comparing the before and after with my gears to cars I've measured up before, I have pretty much gained 2-3 cars on them. It's very true. Unfortunately by 3rd gear my car loses its steam.
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05-11-2006, 09:42 PM #12Originally Posted by Hark_Z
And besides the opti the LT1 is a great motor...and i'm a big fan of it just like the LS1. Why are you nervous if you put 3 cars on bolt-on LS1's in your miracle bolt-on LT1? You're nervous because you know it's BS....
Take a camcorder with you when you race him....cause I wanna see this.
Here's a link with a ls1 and lt1 both mild bolt-ons... http://video.ls1tech.com/video/D05CE...33D27B1F2D.htm
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05-11-2006, 09:45 PM #13
BTW...you might think twice about your friends car not having anything down low in 1st after you race. The pull just feels different in a LS1 but pulls just as hard if not harder...you'll see...the 3.73's will definatly help you though
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05-12-2006, 06:42 AM #14Originally Posted by SeVeReDiStOrTiOn
That 97 TA got ate
I think this may be a drivers race. But be sure to get it on video or at least let us know how it went.
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05-12-2006, 09:06 AM #15
The only advantage you have over your buddy is the fact he's going to have to finess his car off the line and you just have to hit the gas. Racing in an auto is as easy as nailing a drunken prom date.
If he gets a good launch, you're done.
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05-12-2006, 06:12 PM #16Hark_ZGuest
[QUOTE=SeVeReDiStOrTiOn]And unfortunately races don't end in 3rd...and unfortuntely 3rd is where the LS1 begins to shine.
And besides the opti the LT1 is a great motor...and i'm a big fan of it just like the LS1. Why are you nervous if you put 3 cars on bolt-on LS1's in your miracle bolt-on LT1? You're nervous because you know it's BS....
Take a camcorder with you when you race him....cause I wanna see this.
Here's a link with a ls1 and lt1 both mild bolt-ons... http://video.ls1tech.com/video/D05CE...33D27B1F2D.htm[/QUOTE
Definitely never tried to make it sound like a miracle bolt on LT1. Fact is that my car launches well (I launch at about 1500) chirp the tires a little bit and my car pulls very hard thru the first gears. Sure 3 lengths is not typical, thats jjust givin that the LS1 driver doesnt launch very well. It seems you underestimate my car. I'm just so nervous because it's my friend.
BTW: me beating a CAI/exhaust LS1 0 to 80 with an LT1 with 3.73's, shift kit and bolt ons is very possible!
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05-12-2006, 06:14 PM #17Hark_ZGuest
Plus my last post last night pretty much depicts my experiences acurately, no BS- take it or leave it, and sorry if I offended any LS1-owners..
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05-13-2006, 04:13 AM #18Originally Posted by Hark_Z
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