2011 GT 5.0....Finally raced one

**blue02Z** · 03-28-2011, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by blackbird0230

Well I hear theyre rated at 377-395 Rwhp with the same weight (3600 lbs)
Can't confirm just yet but as far as his exhaust, I assume it's stock because of how new the 5-o's are but it sounded absolutely godly. One of the best exhausts I've ever heard

Oh and I don't understand why there are haters, I raced it, thought I'd share. If you wanna do a run with 3rd gear go hunt one down and tell us about it. If I was the type of guy who races anywhere anytime without concern of laws and lives I would have but I didn't. I had my fun with the 2 gears and will keep it as a kill

ah, i thought they were puttin a lil less down. anywho i say its a kill so good job!

**02sunsetorangeZ** · 03-28-2011, 06:29 AM

nice kill! too bad you didnt hit 3rd i bet you would have definitely pulled more. good kil again

**Firebirdjones** · 03-28-2011, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by blackbird0230

Well I hear theyre rated at 377-395 Rwhp with the same weight (3600 lbs)
Can't confirm just yet but as far as his exhaust, I assume it's stock because of how new the 5-o's are but it sounded absolutely godly. One of the best exhausts I've ever heard

Oh and I don't understand why there are haters, I raced it, thought I'd share. If you wanna do a run with 3rd gear go hunt one down and tell us about it. If I was the type of guy who races anywhere anytime without concern of laws and lives I would have but I didn't. I had my fun with the 2 gears and will keep it as a kill

Ya they sound nice, they have cutouts in the exhaust from the factory, that I assume are electronically controlled with throttle position. They sound great when you start whaling on them.
I played with a 5.0 and only went through a couple gears too. Hell by the time I top 2nd gear anyway with 3.42's I'm doing 80-85 mph in ours, that's fast enough on the street for this old fart. I don't need a trip to jail. Most grudges are over within a few seconds anyway.

First one that nudges out is a winner in my book, no need to risk loosing everything, good job

**'02 WS6** · 03-28-2011, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by Firebirdjones

Ya they sound nice, they have cutouts in the exhaust from the factory, that I assume are electronically controlled with throttle position. They sound great when you start whaling on them.
I played with a 5.0 and only went through a couple gears too. Hell by the time I top 2nd gear anyway with 3.42's I'm doing 80-85 mph in ours, that's fast enough on the street for this old fart. I don't need a trip to jail. Most grudges are over within a few seconds anyway.

First one that nudges out is a winner in my book, no need to risk loosing everything, good job

I thought the cutouts were only on the Boss 302s?

**Spaz** · 03-28-2011, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by slimss

So is this really considered a kill? or just a start of a race that you guys didnt get to finish??

define finish... top speed??? crash??? break down???

**slimss** · 03-28-2011, 11:22 AM

Define finish??? Maybe the end of first gear? Maybe not . top speed Crash or break down i would say no. thats why i asked. Cuz maybe the op didnt think it was a true kill. Thats all

**Firebirdjones** · 03-28-2011, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by '02 WS6

I thought the cutouts were only on the Boss 302s?

That very well could be. They had the car flipped on it's side for display on a rotisory so I never got a good view of the sides for any graphics, I just knew it was a new stang.

**redbird555** · 03-29-2011, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by blackbird0230

Well I hear theyre rated at 377-395 Rwhp with the same weight (3600 lbs)
Can't confirm just yet but as far as his exhaust, I assume it's stock because of how new the 5-o's are but it sounded absolutely godly. One of the best exhausts I've ever heard

Oh and I don't understand why there are haters, I raced it, thought I'd share. If you wanna do a run with 3rd gear go hunt one down and tell us about it. If I was the type of guy who races anywhere anytime without concern of laws and lives I would have but I didn't. I had my fun with the 2 gears and will keep it as a kill

Ya they usually they dont dyno that high all the ones ive seen usually are between high 340's with an auto to low 360's with a manual any higher than that stock was probably a happy dyno. A tune will easily take them to 370-380 though. With bolt ons they usually see 410-420ish. I havent seena dyno of a bolt on auto so idk if theyre any lower.

Originally Posted by Firebirdjones

Ya they sound nice, they have cutouts in the exhaust from the factory, that I assume are electronically controlled with throttle position. They sound great when you start whaling on them.
I played with a 5.0 and only went through a couple gears too. Hell by the time I top 2nd gear anyway with 3.42's I'm doing 80-85 mph in ours, that's fast enough on the street for this old fart. I don't need a trip to jail. Most grudges are over within a few seconds anyway.

First one that nudges out is a winner in my book, no need to risk loosing everything, good job

Yep, the boss 302 is the one with the side cutouts it also has a race mode you can put the car in that will open the cutouts and change the tune on the engine which will drop the idle a couple hundred rpms and change the vvt to make it sound like the car has a cam similiar to this... this car has no cams its just a tune ....[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBP4dyCxoZQ[/ame]

**blackbird0230** · 03-29-2011, 06:27 AM

^^i wonder how they made that happen, that's so sick.

**'02 WS6** · 03-29-2011, 06:41 AM

Weren't they trying to develop a key system that depending on which key you have alters the tune?

**rschap1** · 03-29-2011, 07:02 AM

Reminds me...
When I had my 1979 T/A, all I ever raced was the mid-80s 5.0 Stangs.
One spring I pulled my car out for the first time. Intake was still layered with tranny fluid from storage so it was pushing some smoke out the exhaust. BUT...first red light I stop at, guess what pulls up?
YEP looking like a wreck with no valve seal, rings, or a diesel...still handed it to him.
Everyone used to miss second gear too.
Them were the days

**blackbird0230** · 03-29-2011, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by '02 WS6

Weren't they trying to develop a key system that depending on which key you have alters the tune?

I saw that on a youtube video but it was for the BOSS 302

**redbird555** · 03-29-2011, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by '02 WS6

Weren't they trying to develop a key system that depending on which key you have alters the tune?

The tried and did its a key that the owner gets and it alters the tune to develop that lobe.

Originally Posted by blackbird0230

^^i wonder how they made that happen, that's so sick.

It's actually pretty easy the tuner simply lowers the idle which gives it some lobe then they retard valve timing to keep the valves open longer and giving the illusion the car has a tighter lsa and thus a cam. Personally idk if i'd like it, it gives off a false implication first off and by playing with the vvt down low i think i might alter the tune altogether retarding cam timing across the board and making the car loose power...

**justinmc978** · 03-29-2011, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by redbird555

It's actually pretty easy the tuner simply lowers the idle which gives it some lobe then they retard valve timing to keep the valves open longer and giving the illusion the car has a tighter lsa and thus a cam. Personally idk if i'd like it, it gives off a false implication first off and by playing with the vvt down low i think i might alter the tune altogether retarding cam timing across the board and making the car loose power...

right? took the words right out of my mouth, plus its all the wear of cam idle without the cam, a de-tune.

**karpetcm** · 03-29-2011, 02:54 PM

I did a 3rd gear run with a little 4th and not exactly what i expected. Meaning i thought i was gonna lose and ended up with a very slight pull. When i get into 4th it was a tad better or maybe the same pull but they are hella fast ofcourse.

**blackSS01** · 03-29-2011, 05:17 PM

Looks like the big bad 5.0 isn't so bad. Good running car but not the epic height that it was talked up too

**redbird555** · 03-30-2011, 05:09 AM

I wouldnt sell them short like that he did have full bolt ons to beat maybe an exhuast gt? Give the gt headers a tune and an intake and it wouldnt have been the same outcome they routinely trap 109-110 stock which is maybe just a tad under a full bolt on fbody...

**02sunsetorangeZ** · 03-30-2011, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by blackSS01

Looks like the big bad 5.0 isn't so bad. Good running car but not the epic height that it was talked up too

stock form is restrictive. full bolt ons and good launch prolly high 11's or low 12's.

**blackbird0230** · 03-30-2011, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by 02sunsetorangeZ

stock form is restrictive. full bolt ons and good launch prolly high 11's or low 12's.

11's sounds a bit much. I'd say low 12's with full bolt on.

**02sunsetorangeZ** · 03-30-2011, 06:05 AM

mmm take some weight off with slicks. i think there might be a video on youtube with them runing high 11's with bolt ons tune, slicks and some things removed. id try to find it but on the school computer and youtube is blocked. i might be a little off though.