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    My welder makes me look like I can weld... when I am not setting myself on fire. Damn thing makes it almost impossible to screw up a weld.

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    well with enough Nocor and steroid shots you too can block out the back pain and finish this project too.....


    All together, fluids filled, all that's left is to hook battery up and turn key. I'm tired of doing this shit....


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    Luck is wished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyWS6 View Post
    Mmmmm.

    I hear you Scott!

    The second to last pic does look a bit "iffy" but trust me... it was fully welded and subsequently
    cleaned up to Look like a notch that was supposed to be there.

    The other side had the carefully disc cut piece welded back in and you would be hard pressed
    to tell it had been removed. I am more than happy that the integrity is good with these areas
    and i would agree on the motor mount bracket... something to consider replacing down the line
    but not yet!!

    Piece removed.....
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    Piece put back in....
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    I may add that i AM a coach builder by trade and i can weld with the best of them and am happy
    that the car will not fall apart on me!!!

    All of it would never have happened at all if the dispatch moron at TSP had done his job properly, eh?!

    Anyhow, i spent the morning making a tubular tunnel brace as i just wanted to fiddle and put back a member of
    some kind... It'll look good all painted up and i will obviously show a pic!

    The car also got a damn good clean and detail after spending over a week in the shop.

    I was also sceptical about the way you were cutting away at the frame and other structural parts, BUT after seeing the final product....WOW!! looks like a factory piece. The real issue is still the motor mount. As others have already said, it may be a sound piece, but I would be worried about it twisting or flexing out of shape, due to the smaller diameter of the one side of the mount. The integrity of the mount had to have been compromised. Regardless, great work!

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    I believe the best way to describe your past history as a a carriage worker here in the states would be someone in the USA that would be working for the railroad company. Such as CSX, B&O etc.

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    I appreciate the positive comments guys!

    I WILL tend to the motor mount sometime soon but i am all
    worn out from the stuff over the last few days.

    I finished the Tunnel brace today and it is wearing a great
    gloss black finish Who needs UMI!!!

    You have all been a great help with all of the suggestions, advice
    and pointers so far in my ownership and long may it continue!!

    Going back to the spark plug issue... what SHOULD i get MSD wise
    which will offer more clearance at the header tube??



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    I use the MSD 8.5mm super conductor wires and have had no issues with them.

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    The trick is to bend the boots on the MSD wires. 0rion taught me that trick back when I installed them on our car. I also installed a set of DEI heat sleeves over the plug ends, but understand that the stock metal shields can also be re-installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    The trick is to bend the boots on the MSD wires. 0rion taught me that trick back when I installed them on our car. I also installed a set of DEI heat sleeves over the plug ends, but understand that the stock metal shields can also be re-installed.
    What is this trick you speak of...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    The trick is to bend the boots on the MSD wires. 0rion taught me that trick back when I installed them on our car. I also installed a set of DEI heat sleeves over the plug ends, but understand that the stock metal shields can also be re-installed.
    I also have the MSD wires and reinstalled the metal shield and no problems with heat what so ever for over 3yrs now
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyWS6 View Post
    Well, maybe...

    But my original trade has no real connection with cars. It is all
    commercial stuff such as the railway or truck body companies.

    Having said that, it would of course translate to cars as shaping a panel
    is shaping a panel!!
    I also spent many years (12) building rail cars(7 different types) here in the states. No real title such as coach builder(I like that) we were just welder fabricator's. I put in another 4+ in another shop building man lifts then repairing them. Had to cut apart and reweld finished units right off the assembly line. I became pretty good with a grinder and welder. Now I just do it at home for fun for myself and others who need it. I love doing it now it's not a job

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    Quote Originally Posted by theorangeguy View Post
    What is this trick you speak of...?

    The MSD plug boots can be bent and will hold the bend. This allows for extra clearance between the boot and the header tubes.

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    I use Taylor Cable 79603 and slide the stock metal boot over top of the spark plug boot end. It takes some time and some dielectric grease on the wire, but it will fit. The wires have been on my car for well over 10 years now with no issue at all.

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    Spent the day cleaning for a show tomorrow also checked the Trans fluid and rear end fluid. Also grabbed some picks from under while it was up of the parts I just added

    Wanted black but could not pass on the deal


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    Drove out to a show today...

    About 40 miles one way and it drove great on the way there!

    On the way back shortly after setting off it started running
    like cr*p!! Finally got home after all sorts of hassles and problems
    running through my mind, popped the hood and started looking
    about only to find the plug lead on #2 swinging in the breeze.

    That would do it, eh??

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    Did it cook the wire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingls1 View Post
    Spent the day cleaning for a show tomorrow also checked the Trans fluid and rear end fluid. Also grabbed some picks from under while it was up of the parts I just added
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    Wanted black but could not pass on the deal
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    "rattle, rattle, rattle"


    Looks good. I've gone all black with my UMI stuff as well. No free clues, you want to know you going have to look
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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    Did it cook the wire?
    Mmmm.... Is it possible it has harmed the wire?

    Once the motor had cooled down i popped it all
    back together and started the car. Although i
    never drove the car it idled fine and revved freely.

    Can't try it today as it is pouring down!

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    If it did, you would know it -- either the boot or the wire would be melted or burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    If it did, you would know it -- either the boot or the wire would be melted or burned.
    I get you Jeff, you mean obviously and physically melted and horrid!

    I thought you meant somehow electrically speaking causing it not to
    play ball due to getting too hot internally in some way?!


    Nope.... like i said, all looks fine outwardly and it revved nicely once
    clipped back into place!

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