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    Well I've been busy, replaced alternator, double checked power steering pump, installed 2 step, shift light, removed a/c, speakers, and back seats.
    10secWS6 If you can't swing it, then don't bring it

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    Been fiddling about underneath and it's starting to look
    a lot cleaner and tidier under there!

    Dave (Nutball) gave me the top tip of the flexible vinyl paint
    on the factory undercoating. I was less than happy with the
    sad flat look and this paint really puts a great sheen on it.


    Possibly not everybody's thing but i love the improved look!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    How do you put the panel you cut back on after you cut it? Do you use some liquid gasket or something? I need to drop my tank I think especially since I need to drain all the gas out before I fill it up with e85. Is there another way to drain the tank?
    I used an all weather type of foam that I had laying around in my garage for just this type of work. It's the same type of foam/rubber for the door and trunk seals. I got a piece of stainless steel to cover the hole I cut out for the access hole. Then used self cutting stainless steel screws to hold it back in place. This way, if I ever need to remove it, I just unscrew it and the seal is still good too. No need to drain the tank either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RONS98TA View Post
    I used an all weather type of foam that I had laying around in my garage for just this type of work. It's the same type of foam/rubber for the door and trunk seals. I got a piece of stainless steel to cover the hole I cut out for the access hole. Then used self cutting stainless steel screws to hold it back in place. This way, if I ever need to remove it, I just unscrew it and the seal is still good too. No need to drain the tank either.
    Ah cool, I still need to drain the tank though for my build I need to ensure I have e85 in there. 14.8 to 1 compression won't fly on regular gas and I am not sure how a quarter or less of a tank of 93 will change the ethanol rating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyWS6 View Post
    Been fiddling about underneath and it's starting to look
    a lot cleaner and tidier under there!

    Dave (Nutball) gave me the top tip of the flexible vinyl paint
    on the factory undercoating. I was less than happy with the
    sad flat look and this paint really puts a great sheen on it.


    Possibly not everybody's thing but i love the improved look!
    What exactly did you use? This is what I am looking at doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    What exactly did you use? This is what I am looking at doing.
    no joke...what did you do and how did you apply it???
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyWS6 View Post
    Been fiddling about underneath and it's starting to look
    a lot cleaner and tidier under there!

    Dave (Nutball) gave me the top tip of the flexible vinyl paint
    on the factory undercoating. I was less than happy with the
    sad flat look and this paint really puts a great sheen on it.
    Click for full size

    Possibly not everybody's thing but i love the improved look!

    PlastiDip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    PlastiDip?
    that looks pretty glossy for plastidip...its usually pretty flat unless he hit it with some gloss.

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    There are some gloss versions of plastidip.

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    Well guys,

    You all seem curious as to what i used!!?

    I get the impression you like the result so.......
    .... The one i used was this one, Halfords | Halfords Flexible Vinyl Paint Black
    Obviously this is a UK brand from Halfords store, much like your
    auto parts stores i guess?

    A quick look around has found this one Auto Paint SEM Color Coat Black Vinyl Spray Car Paint | eBay
    Now, i cannot say it will get the same exact results but like i said
    previously i "stole" the idea From Nutball and what a great tip!!

    Looked at Plastidip rubber coating aerosols on ebay and it may do the
    job well but dunno what finish it would give sheen wise?

    The Halfords one above does not specify gloss or semi or anything, just
    that it is black and flexible so i went for it. All it needed was a careful bit
    of masking and one can equaled 2 coats for one wheel well.... so 2 cans
    in total. Before i shot the paint i gave all the undercoating a real good
    wash down with a stiff brush and some suds then once dry i wiped it all
    down with acetone to properly de-grease the surfaces.

    Here are a couple more views and it does look slightly glossier than real life
    but not too far off i have to say......





    :O)
    Last edited by speedyWS6; 04-15-2014 at 07:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyWS6 View Post
    Well guys,

    You all seem curious as to what i used!!?

    I get the impression you like the result so.......
    .... The one i used was this one, Halfords | Halfords Flexible Vinyl Paint Black
    Obviously this is a UK brand from Halfords store, much like your
    auto parts stores i guess?

    A quick look around has found this one Auto Paint SEM Color Coat Black Vinyl Spray Car Paint | eBay
    Now, i cannot say it will get the same exact results but like i said
    previously i "stole" the idea From Nutball and what a great tip!!

    Looked at Plastidip rubber coating aerosols on ebay and it may do the
    job well but dunno what finish it would give sheen wise?

    The Halfords one above does not specify gloss or semi or anything, just
    that it is black and flexible so i went for it. All it needed was a careful bit
    of masking and one can equaled 2 coats for one wheel well.... so 2 cans
    in total.

    Here are a couple more views and it does look slightly glossier than real life
    but not too far off i have to say......

    Click for full size

    Click for full size

    :O)
    that looks just like herculiner "do it your self bed liner"...I have a can of that in my garage...wonder if it would work for this...?

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    Patrick,

    It may well do. A similar sort of result i'd guess?

    I suppose my method has colored an already thick factory undercoating
    whereas bedliner is thick in it's own right.... isn't it?

    Just looked at the herculiner site. It looks ideal!

    Trev

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyWS6 View Post
    Patrick,

    It may well do. A similar sort of result i'd guess?

    I suppose my method has colored an already thick factory undercoating
    whereas bedliner is thick in it's own right.... isn't it?

    Just looked at the herculiner site. It looks ideal!

    Trev
    it can go on pretty thin...you are correct tho. This looks like it needs more of a thin layer of something glossy to make it pop like you did.
    Last edited by theorangeguy; 04-15-2014 at 08:28 AM.

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    One thing which may need a mention.

    Mine.... like a lot of cars on here are not daily drivers and don't
    see the wet.

    Maybe this process would not stand up to the wet but equally, i
    don't suppose you would bother detailing wheel wells on a daily, would you?!


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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyWS6 View Post
    One thing which may need a mention.

    Mine.... like a lot of cars on here are not daily drivers and don't
    see the wet.

    Maybe this process would not stand up to the wet but equally, i
    don't suppose you would bother detailing wheel wells on a daily, would you?!

    my car never gets driven in the rain unless for some odd reason I miss a weather report. I think i've driven my car in the rain twice in a year...1.) is because I just dont want to 2.) I hydroplaned in an Fbody a long time ago and i've always been skittish since then...it stung a little bit so I dont drive my car in the rain anymore lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    make sure you label and bag critical parts like the oil barbell. They are a PITA to find and easy to get lost.

    Also do not mix up LS1 & LQ4 front/rear plate bolts. They are different length. The plates look and perform the same function however the bolt area is recces on one, IIRC the LS1 plate.


    I was also able to resale my oil pan & pick up tube on ebay for $75.

    Still have the water pump unfortunately
    I make it a habit to bag and label all bolts I take off anytime I am doing serious work. I was thinking of replacing all the block parts like the barbell, plugs & sensors when I rebuild it. I'm pretty sure that all Gen III blocks share front and rear covers & bolts along with most of the external components.

    Since I was really only after the block I plan on trying to sell off as much of the motor as possible to try and re-coup some of the cost. And now that I am looking at the picture again I guess I'm gonna have to bolt the flexplate back up in order to loosen that crank bolt, DOH! I had to put visegrips on the waterpump pulley in order to get the clutch fan off so I doubt anyone is going to want the one I have so it's pretty much junk at this point I guess.

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    I used an impact for the crank bolt, it came of in less than a second lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    I used an impact for the crank bolt, it came of in less than a second lol.
    But unless there is something to stop the crank from spinning wouldn't that just keep rotating it around? Normally I use a flexplate/flywheel holding tool that bolts where the starter goes when I need to immobilize the crank.

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    Nope the crank doesn't turn when using an impact. The impact has a hammering mechanism inside which is how the bolt turns but it doesn't turn the object it is threaded into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    Nope the crank doesn't turn when using an impact. The impact has a hammering mechanism inside which is how the bolt turns but it doesn't turn the object it is threaded into.
    Ahh, gotcha. Unfortunately I don't have an impact.

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