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    Quote Originally Posted by RichWS6 View Post
    had a good long stare with my ABS delete kit, I know its going to be a pain to do and part of me is really lazy, talk about a rock and a hard place.
    what kit did you go with? I got one but haven't installed it yet, waiting on motor problems to be fixed first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    what kit did you go with? I got one but haven't installed it yet, waiting on motor problems to be fixed first.
    I got the SMJ kit without the line lock.

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    same here let me know how it goes for you on install. I'm working one gremlin at a time so this is on back burner till it starts to move again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichWS6 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    what kit did you go with? I got one but haven't installed it yet, waiting on motor problems to be fixed first.
    I got the SMJ kit without the line lock.
    I'd like to know how the install goes as well since I have the same kit but I need to get other things done first before I install it.
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    Why do all you guys want to delete your ABS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Why do all you guys want to delete your ABS?
    Line lock maybe...? Besides...stopping in a shorter distance is overrated anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Why do all you guys want to delete your ABS?
    For me it's because I can't use 3 chl ABS with my 8.8 rear or more exactly the GM sensor doesn't read the 8.8 abs ring correctly. And I'm not going to go out of my way to get a 4 chl to hook up.
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    I have ABS and a line-lock installed.
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    3 chl or 4 chl?

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    That's why. Your ABS ring is on the axles so your ABS sensor can read it properly.

    With 3 chl it is located on the center section and the abs ring is part of the diff. I counted the ring teeth between my 10 bolt and the 8.8 and the 8.8 had quite a few more. I check with Curtis and he confirmed that it would give a false reading and that my abs would react differently then what it should.


    I also have a line lock as well but makes no difference between 3 or 4 chl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    For me it's because I can't use 3 chl ABS with my 8.8 rear or more exactly the GM sensor doesn't read the 8.8 abs ring correctly. And I'm not going to go out of my way to get a 4 chl to hook up.
    This makes sense. I didn't see your response until just now. I was referring to others who have a standard 10-bolt, or an aftermarket rear-end capable of maintaining it.

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    My brother bought a car from "SPAZ" back in FEB or so. He had a Ford 8.8 installed in it, but it had a broken axle on the drivers side. Also the center section was welded together to give it a locked differential. ( Not good for street use at all) We had to buy new axles from MOSER. All we had to do then was install the ABS rings on the axles and ABS is complete! Wasn't that hard to do at all. So now he has 4 channel ABS, a Ford 8.8 with 410 gears, and a stock GM 5 bolt lug pattern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    For me it's because I can't use 3 chl ABS with my 8.8 rear or more exactly the GM sensor doesn't read the 8.8 abs ring correctly. And I'm not going to go out of my way to get a 4 chl to hook up.
    For me I have a three channel and a Moser 9" it has the reluctor wheel for abs but the sensor is 1/4 of an inch to short so the ABS is INOP. I have drove 4th gens with the ABS deleted and it makes a world of difference, it really wakes up the stock brakes. When I do it I will make a write up with pictures and whatnot.

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    For me it is because I want to set my brake bias and my abs doesn't work to begin with or not well anyways. I'd much rather just delete it with a proportioning valve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichWS6 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SMWS6TA View Post
    For me it's because I can't use 3 chl ABS with my 8.8 rear or more exactly the GM sensor doesn't read the 8.8 abs ring correctly. And I'm not going to go out of my way to get a 4 chl to hook up.
    For me I have a three channel and a Moser 9" it has the reluctor wheel for abs but the sensor is 1/4 of an inch to short so the ABS is INOP. I have drove 4th gens with the ABS deleted and it makes a world of difference, it really wakes up the stock brakes. When I do it I will make a write up with pictures and whatnot.
    Can you explain this to me a little? I put a 3 channel 10 bolt in my normally 4 channel 10 bolt while my 8.8 is being built and now my TCS and ABS light are on and I worry that I'm going to have issues someway somehow.

    I guess I'm asking how it wakes up the stock brakes. What are the differences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrbonds View Post
    Can you explain this to me a little? I put a 3 channel 10 bolt in my normally 4 channel 10 bolt while my 8.8 is being built and now my TCS and ABS light are on and I worry that I'm going to have issues someway somehow.

    I guess I'm asking how it wakes up the stock brakes. What are the differences?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jrbonds View Post
    Can you explain this to me a little? I put a 3 channel 10 bolt in my normally 4 channel 10 bolt while my 8.8 is being built and now my TCS and ABS light are on and I worry that I'm going to have issues someway somehow.

    I guess I'm asking how it wakes up the stock brakes. What are the differences?
    To me they were more responsive without the ABS and under hard braking I was able to stop faster, the peddle was firmer as well.

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