1985 Monte Carlo SS

**Smittro** · 04-29-2010, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

Having a little struggle with the steering column this evening. I had to tear it down quite a ways to tighten up the torx head bolts under the cover (not the ones you see in the pic). You could actually move the steering wheel around quite a bit as they had loosened up.

I have all the complicated stuff back together... but can't seem to get the turn signal cam assembly to seat. It appears to be hitting on the key buzzer switch (circled in red below). If I pull the key buzzer, the turn signal assembly slides right into place. Not sure what is going on. I have tried rotating it, angling it, applying light pressure, and it just won't seat. Any trick to this?

Maybe you missed something putting it back together.

But here maybe this will help some.. http://www.stolenandrecovered.com/video/2.php

I know you're trying to put it back together but maybe you skipped or jumped a step?

**pajeff02** · 04-29-2010, 07:09 PM

Wow! You made it here and back to AAG without a hitch. I am impressed.

Yeah, it has to be something stupid that is hanging up the switch assembly. I have had the key buzzer in and out several times to make sure it is fully seated. I'll try again tomorrow night.

**pajeff02** · 04-29-2010, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Smittro

Imho looks like the switch has broken away from the turn sig control to me.?...? Not sure though but something does'nt look right there. Because to me the switch looks to be the same material as the turn sig ring. The edges of the signal switch look freyed like when plasitc snaps in a weak spot. If that makes any sense..

It makes sense what you are saying. But the manual clearly shows the buzzer as being a separate unit. You have to turn the key to "run" to get it in and out of its slot. I had no difficulty removing the turn signal assembly and am 99% certain that I did not break anything.

**pajeff02** · 04-29-2010, 07:12 PM

Also, there are two contacts on the back of the turn signal assembly that those long tabs ride against.

**cammed goat** · 04-29-2010, 07:16 PM

Oh man...I used to be familiar with that setup. My old 87 Z24 had that setup if I recall. I think you have to turn the key to "run" to get that piece to sit flush...if that is what you are trying to do anyway.

**pajeff02** · 04-29-2010, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by cammed goat

Oh man...I used to be familiar with that setup. My old 87 Z24 had that setup if I recall. I think you have to turn the key to "run" to get that piece to sit flush...if that is what you are trying to do anyway.

I think I tried that... won't hurt to try it again tomorrow though.

**Smittro** · 04-29-2010, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

It makes sense what you are saying. But the manual clearly shows the buzzer as being a separate unit. You have to turn the key to "run" to get it in and out of its slot. I had no difficulty removing the turn signal assembly and am 99% certain that I did not break anything.

In before the edit.. Check my post maybe that will better help..

**cammed goat** · 04-29-2010, 08:10 PM

Man. When I am tired...I lose my memory. Sorry Jeff.

**pajeff02** · 04-30-2010, 08:11 AM

Ok -- watched the vids (which were quite good) and it looks like the tech placed the buzzer switch in the column before inserting the ignition cylinder. I'll pull it apart and try it that way this evening. On disassembly, the buzzer switch came out first, that's why I put it in last.

**pajeff02** · 04-30-2010, 06:26 PM

We have success. Turns out that the spring clip that keeps the key buzzer switch in contact with the key cylinder had moved up during removal. Once I looked everything over again, I realized that this needed to be on the bottom and then everything fit like it should. Not sure how they did it in the video, as the key cylinder retainer screw is blocked by the buzzer switch -- so the cylinder had to be in place first.

After getting it all together, I backed it out and gave it a quick bath. Looks much better with the tires scrubbed. Bleche White really does the trick on white letter tires. We took it for a ride downtown and I treated the ladies to ice cream. I'm still amazed at how nice it runs and drives.

**torturedsouls0130** · 04-30-2010, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

Thanks! I will be working on the car more over the next several days and will start a wish list.

I marked it and checked it. The drive shaft turned 3 and what looked like 3/4 it was definitely more then 1/2 just a hair short of 3 - 3/4 does that count?

**cuervo25_1** · 04-30-2010, 09:05 PM

I hate to be the bearer of bad news Jeff but those torx bolts you tightened will keep coming loose.Next time apply some locktite on them. I think dad still has my old SS column that didn't have tilt and maybe a few other ss parts including a new nose if you need them. I had the regular monte and I found a SS in the junkyard that I grabbed parts from along with another ss that I bought that caught fire in the engine compartment. Unless he sold them,or junked them there should be lots of ss parts that he has there,and even a few non ss parts.

**35th-ANV-SS** · 05-01-2010, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by torturedsouls0130

I marked it and checked it. The drive shaft turned 3 and what looked like 3/4 it was definitely more then 1/2 just a hair short of 3 - 3/4 does that count?

Guessing you have a 3.73 gear then.

**pajeff02** · 05-01-2010, 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by cuervo25_1

I hate to be the bearer of bad news Jeff but those torx bolts you tightened will keep coming loose.Next time apply some locktite on them. I think dad still has my old SS column that didn't have tilt and maybe a few other ss parts including a new nose if you need them. I had the regular monte and I found a SS in the junkyard that I grabbed parts from along with another ss that I bought that caught fire in the engine compartment. Unless he sold them,or junked them there should be lots of ss parts that he has there,and even a few non ss parts.

I used Loc-Tite on them so it should be good to go. Let me know if you still have the nose. I wouldn't mind having a spare. Thanks!

**rkvette** · 05-01-2010, 05:54 AM

guys/ gals - do you know 40th ann.of monte carlos ... 1970>2010... hear may be large turnout ? at gm nationals june 25>27,2010/carlisle, pa...will see most models, including some like yours... if not far away,may pay to go to talk/ discuss, fun things?with these montes .. rkvette

**pajeff02** · 05-01-2010, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by rkvette

guys/ gals - do you know 40th ann.of monte carlos ... 1970>2010... hear may be large turnout ? at gm nationals june 25>27,2010/carlisle, pa...will see most models, including some like yours... if not far away,may pay to go to talk/ discuss, fun things?with these montes .. rkvette

Already have a thread started: http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136189 Didn't think about the fact that it's an anniversary. May have to take the Monte and the Bird down this year.

**KahanaReef** · 05-01-2010, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

Already have a thread started: http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136189 Didn't think about the fact that it's an anniversary. May have to take the Monte and the Bird down this year.

You should definitely take both

**pajeff02** · 05-01-2010, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by KahanaReef

You should definitely take both

When I told the wife that it was the 40th anniversary that was her immediate reply. I was a bit disappointed last year with the fact that I couldn't get a group from the site together. Unless we get some of the members to identify themselves, or agree to a meet and greet, we may just take the Monte and leave the T/A home.

Last year I only met one other site member and that is because I recognized his car. I was really looking forward to checking out other members' rides, but the few that were there didn't make any attempt to say so. I have an LS1.com license plate frame, the site logo and my avatar were posted on the dash with a cell number, and my daughter was in an LS1.com t-shirt. I couldn't have tried any harder.

**KahanaReef** · 05-01-2010, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

When I told the wife that it was the 40th anniversary that was her immediate reply. I was a bit disappointed last year with the fact that I couldn't get a group from the site together. Unless we get some of the members to identify themselves, or agree to a meet and greet, we may just take the Monte and leave the T/A home.

Last year I only met one other site member and that is because I recognized his car. I was really looking forward to checking out other members' rides, but the few that were there didn't make any attempt to say so. I have an LS1.com license plate frame, the site logo and my avatar were posted on the dash with a cell number, and my daughter was in an LS1.com t-shirt. I couldn't have tried any harder.

Great minds and all

You started a thread right? Hopefully you'll get a better turnout or at least have a plan to meet up with some of our members this time around.

I still say take both either way

**1fastcamarosss11** · 05-03-2010, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by pajeff02

I used Loc-Tite on them so it should be good to go. Let me know if you still have the nose. I wouldn't mind having a spare. Thanks!

i have a whole front nose with headlights and all, steering wheel with tilt, spoiler. two sets of 86-88 aluminum rims. remember on these noses, the chin of the spoiler the black part is over 130 new just for that part, so watch tearing that up.