01 cobra....

[Pumped03]

the 99 and 01 cobra had the exact same spoilers on the back, the easiest way to tell a difference, is the rear bumper.. the 99 still said mustang in the rear cover, and the 01 look identical, just said cobra insted..

I owned both and they were dfferent. The 99 was flat and bent on the ends to the fender. 01 had posts in the middle.

[Pumped03]

Very few visual cues that distinguish a 99 from an 01. Main one is the spoiler (01 had a slightly raised spoiler). No Mustangs were two-tone from the factory (99 or 01), so it would have had to have been repainted.

HP/performance wise, 99 and 01 were identical, assuming a 99 has had the performance recall performed.

'The Fix" was a boatload of bull shit.

[Pumped03]

When I was a teenager, I would just go off of hp numbers, and I remember when I got my 93 6 speed TA, I knew I had a 275 horsepower LT1, and I knew the 96-98 Cobras had 305, so I always thought I would lose. One night I raced one and beat it pretty good, 1-2 cars, we raced like 4 times from 4 differant speeds. Every time I won. I was amazed.
When I got my 99 TA, my friend told me that a 320 hp 01 Cobra would beat me because I had 305 hp. I knew better and went lookin for one. Raped a lot of them over the years. Fun, fun, fun. As long as there not modded alot, you will win if you have an LS1

Yeah, it's the stuff legends are made. Look "Legend" up in the dictionary because a legend is a fictonal character.

They is a lot closer that you'un want to think. I'm still waitng to see an LS1 bonestock make 330 rwhp SAE. It may make 330 uncorrected is a cool shop. Factory freak, bwahahahahahahaha. Not in today's manufacturing. The legend continues.

[Zinergy]

Yeah, it's the stuff legends are made. Look "Legend" up in the dictionary because a legend is a fictonal character.

They is a lot closer that you'un want to think. I'm still waitng to see an LS1 bonestock make 330 rwhp SAE. It may make 330 uncorrected is a cool shop. Factory freak, bwahahahahahahaha. Not in today's manufacturing. The legend continues.

All i know is i pull on bolt on n/a cobras and most bolt on mach 1s.

[preston1980]

Yeah, it's the stuff legends are made. Look "Legend" up in the dictionary because a legend is a fictonal character.

They is a lot closer that you'un want to think. I'm still waitng to see an LS1 bonestock make 330 rwhp SAE. It may make 330 uncorrected is a cool shop. Factory freak, bwahahahahahahaha. Not in today's manufacturing. The legend continues.

I have never seen nor heard of a stock ls1 with 330 rwhp, they are all around 300 rwhp.
But that being said, the 01 Cobra only puts down around 270 rwhp. And because of the i.r.s. in the cobras, the fbods and 01 cobras are around the same weight. And the cobras had a 3.27 rear end gear, and the m6 fbods had a 3.42s Plus a 6 speed vs a 5 speed. Long story short, advantage LS1 fbods.
The only prayer the cobra had against an m6 fbod was 0-60, they were a hair faster I believe. like 5.2 to 5.1 or something like that. But the qaurter mile was like m6 fbod- 13.4 to cobras - 13.8

[big hammer]

All i know is i pull on bolt on n/a cobras and most bolt on mach 1s.

N\A 4v's can be quick 0-60, but after that they start to shit the bed

[BLKCLOUD]

The 6 speed vs 5 speed is not an advantage in the 1/4 mile (or anything waaayyyy into triple digits). That's because both trannies are overdriven in gears 1 to 3 and have the same 1:1 4th gear. The main difference is that the T56 has two OD gears vs the 5-speeds 1 OD gear.

And once the modding starts (even "bolt-ons"), be careful. Though quick bolt-on LS1's are far more common than quick N/A bolt-on Cobras, that doesn't mean that you won't run across a good running bolt-on example. There are several examples of N/A 98+ Cobras/Mach 1's that have gone well into the 11's with bolt-ons.

Finally....the main F-body advantage comes from the LS1 itself. It is, quite simply, a superior performance powerplant to the N/A 4V 4.6.

[blue02Z]

The 6 speed vs 5 speed is not an advantage in the 1/4 mile (or anything waaayyyy into triple digits). That's because both trannies are overdriven in gears 1 to 3 and have the same 1:1 4th gear. The main difference is that the T56 has two OD gears vs the 5-speeds 1 OD gear.

And once the modding starts (even "bolt-ons"), be careful. Though quick bolt-on LS1's are far more common than quick N/A bolt-on Cobras, that doesn't mean that you won't run across a good running bolt-on example. There are several examples of N/A 98+ Cobras/Mach 1's that have gone well into the 11's with bolt-ons.

Finally....the main F-body advantage comes from the LS1 itself. It is, quite simply, a superior performance powerplant to the N/A 4V 4.6.

you mean underdrivin

but i do completely agree with you on the last statement

[BLKCLOUD]

Sorry - I did mean underdriven. Tks.

[lazyeye]

01 cobras dont need "alot of mods" to beat an ls1, all it needs is 4.10 gears and some good tires

[Zinergy]

01 cobras dont need "alot of mods" to beat an ls1, all it needs is 4.10 gears and some good tires

What did you run?

[kevnstac]

The 2011 Mustang will come out with a 5.0 engine with a reported 400HP 400lbft torque. It should be interesting to see how it runs.
Ford is doing away with the 4.0, 4.6 and 5.4. They are being replaced by the 3.5 V6 (also available as an ecoboost version w/355HP), 5.0 (400HP) and 6.2 (500HP) engines going forward. It looks like Ford is trying to keep up with the rest of the auto makers because 315HP in a GT is a far cry from 426 in an SS or 425 in the SRT-8 Challenger.
I'm still waiting for the Z/28 version to become available. Sooner or later they have to open the vault and let it happen. This may be just what is needed to make that happen.

[big hammer]

01 cobras dont need "alot of mods" to beat an ls1, all it needs is 4.10 gears and some good tires. furthermore the ls1 car needs to be out of fuel and in reverse.

editted for truth

[kevnstac]

Having a Mustang and a Firebird (and a Trailblazer SS, Ford F150 & Dodge Ram 2500 truck) YOU CAN'T SAY I DIDN'T DO MY PART TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY
All I will say is it takes some work on the older Mustangs to beat the 98-02 cars. Although, I remember when the 85 GT would toast my 84 Z/28. MY 99 WS6 will out perform most Mustangs of today.
Its been a war since I was a little kid. I'm sure its not going to end anytime soon.
I guess what separates me from the die hard GM lovers is the fact that I love performance cars as long as they are made in America. Some would question my preference of either, and I couldn't tell you honestly which car I like better.

P.S. That doesn't count rice, as the only thing that comes to mind when I see them is a rolling fart can.