cam ?s

NOmulletLs7 · 07-19-2009, 11:46 PM

im kinda new to the whole ls1 game, been a mustang guy for years and had 2 lt1 cars, anyways i am wondering what is a good cam i can put in my 99 ws6 that will have a rough idle but i wont have to change the valve springs and it would give a good performance boost? any help is would be great!!

KING Z28 HAWK · 07-20-2009, 01:43 AM

First off welcome to the site and welcome to the life of real muscle cars!

Your not really going to want to get a cam without the supporting mods. You can if you’d like to but you wont get the full gain of the cam without them. Your not going to be able to get a cam that has a choppy idle without changing springs. But you can get a ASA cam and LS6 springs for cheap! And that thing chops pretty good….

an links to the vids..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqTYDfPOY0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NPuSKVM_V8

Hi-Po · 07-20-2009, 05:14 PM

Just read up on cams. You need to get a feel for what you are wanting.

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...=110851&page=2

PittZ28 · 07-20-2009, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KING Z28 HAWK

First off welcome to the site and welcome to the life of real muscle cars!

Your not really going to want to get a cam without the supporting mods. You can if you’d like to but you wont get the full gain of the cam without them. Your not going to be able to get a cam that has a choppy idle without changing springs. But you can get a ASA cam and LS6 springs for cheap! And that thing chops pretty good….

an links to the vids..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqTYDfPOY0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NPuSKVM_V8

that was 388rwhp? is the cam the only mod? just curious b/c i myself am looking into a cam or heads/cam deal but money as usual is tight.

NOmulletLs7 · 07-20-2009, 08:56 PM

i have all the suporting mods, intake, longtubes, full exhaust, im just wondering about a cam that has a rough idle without changing springs cause i dont wanna buy springs cause im build a 408 6.0 motor to go in but its gonna take a while so i just wanted a choppy idle until i get the stroker in?

mark21742 · 07-21-2009, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOmulletLs7

i have all the suporting mods, intake, longtubes, full exhaust, im just wondering about a cam that has a rough idle without changing springs cause i dont wanna buy springs cause im build a 408 6.0 motor to go in but its gonna take a while so i just wanted a choppy idle until i get the stroker in?

the stock springs are barely good enough for the stock cam, if I were you I'd pickup a set of comp 918 springs and then you can swap them over to your stroker when the time comes ( as long as your stroker cam's lift isn't too high)
a cam with a 112 lsa or less will be choppy

Hi-Po · 07-21-2009, 10:03 AM

Valve springs are a must. If you dont wanna change the valve springs, you dont want a cam.

TRANS-DAD · 07-21-2009, 10:13 AM

Hey just responded to your other post! But like mark said stock springs really arn't very good especialy w/alot of miles on them. What happens when you add more lift on stock
spring also is spring bind & then have a prob. bending pushrods!! which should be replaced w/a cam change also!

NOmulletLs7 · 07-21-2009, 11:59 PM

well do u have to take the heads off to change the springs, or is there some way u can do it with the heads on cause i hear its really hard to pull the heads on these things with motor in the car. right now its lookin like ill just wait until i get my motor built before i can have the idle i want. cause these r my two other cars and i want it to sound like them! lol, <a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/lx-coupe-SICK_210908.htm"><img src="http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/90/80/210908.jpg"/><br>lx coupe, SICK!</a> <a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/NASTY-MALIBU_696150.htm"><img src="http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/16/05/696150.jpg"/><br>NASTY MALIBU!</a>

NOmulletLs7 · 07-22-2009, 12:04 AM

sry idk how to post those as a link yet. lol

KING Z28 HAWK · 07-22-2009, 12:30 AM

Here you go...

NASTY+MALIBU!

lx+coupe%2c+SICK!

NOmulletLs7 · 07-22-2009, 01:01 AM

awesome! thanks man! i need an instruction manuel for this site, lol

KING Z28 HAWK · 07-22-2009, 01:06 AM

Lol no problem yeah its a little hard at first but next thing you know you'll be on here everyday and doing it like nothing.

mark21742 · 07-22-2009, 03:16 AM

you can swap out the springs with the heads on, I don't know which threads they arr in, but there are a couple on here if you look back over this past month that have the tool you want....you can make one or buy them for around 30 some bucks

NOmulletLs7 · 07-22-2009, 10:35 AM

thanks for the help guys, now about all i need to know is whats the most lift u can run with out piston to valve clearance problams?

Hi-Po · 07-22-2009, 11:58 AM

Stock heads, stock short block, you can fit mid .600's.

you will be changing springs more often!

mark21742 · 07-22-2009, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hi-Po

Stock heads, stock short block, you can fit mid .600's.

you will be changing springs more often!

don't go and scare the poor guy Hi-Po

NOmulletLs7 · 07-22-2009, 10:21 PM

oh trust me i dont get scared when it comes to doin mods, lol as long as it gets me more power! my mustangs is makin right at 850 until i can get more boost and then im shootin for 1000. one day im hoping the trans am will be there too or as cose as possible, lol and i know yall guys probly dont like hearing about a ford but i love em all as long as it can make big power and f-bodies look so damn good! I dont like rice though, haha. thanks again for the post, im kinda leanin toward a ms3 cam with some comp behive springs and ti retainers

07-19-2009, 11:46 PM	#1
NOmulletLs7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greensboro nc Posts: 12 99 ws6 victory red	cam ?s im kinda new to the whole ls1 game, been a mustang guy for years and had 2 lt1 cars, anyways i am wondering what is a good cam i can put in my 99 ws6 that will have a rough idle but i wont have to change the valve springs and it would give a good performance boost? any help is would be great!!

07-21-2009, 10:03 AM	#7
Hi-Po My way to stop breaking v Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan for now. Posts: 9,713 1999 TA WS.6 Black	Valve springs are a must. If you dont wanna change the valve springs, you dont want a cam. __________________ 6.0 - 5.3 Lingenfelter's - 230/236 - FAST 92/92 - Kooks - 4" exhaust - ecutout - 9" 4.11s 416 RWHP 375 RWTQ on a Mustang Dyno - On old MAF Tune\|Now SD by Frost 11.91 116MPH 1.68 Reading, Research, Options Thread \|\| Camshaft Guide \|\| Guide to Buying a Fbody \|\| Gauges Install Thread \|\| Complete Header Thread \|\|Differences Between Rear Ends \|\| Common Code List / Solutions \|\| How to Bleed a Clutch with a MityVac

07-20-2009, 01:43 AM	#2
KING Z28 HAWK Freezin my A$$ of in Iowa Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fresno Ca/ Cedar Rapids Ia Age: 21 Posts: 1,952 Pewter 2002 Z28 Camaro Stock cuz im broke	First off welcome to the site and welcome to the life of real muscle cars! Your not really going to want to get a cam without the supporting mods. You can if you’d like to but you wont get the full gain of the cam without them. Your not going to be able to get a cam that has a choppy idle without changing springs. But you can get a ASA cam and LS6 springs for cheap! And that thing chops pretty good…. an links to the vids.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URqTYDfPOY0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NPuSKVM_V8

07-20-2009, 05:14 PM	#3
Hi-Po My way to stop breaking v Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan for now. Posts: 9,713 1999 TA WS.6 Black	Just read up on cams. You need to get a feel for what you are wanting. http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...=110851&page=2

07-20-2009, 08:56 PM	#5
NOmulletLs7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greensboro nc Posts: 12 99 ws6 victory red	i have all the suporting mods, intake, longtubes, full exhaust, im just wondering about a cam that has a rough idle without changing springs cause i dont wanna buy springs cause im build a 408 6.0 motor to go in but its gonna take a while so i just wanted a choppy idle until i get the stroker in?

07-21-2009, 10:13 AM	#8
TRANS-DAD Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PASADENA,TEXAS Posts: 252 2001 T/A VERT. BLACK	Hey just responded to your other post! But like mark said stock springs really arn't very good especialy w/alot of miles on them. What happens when you add more lift on stock spring also is spring bind & then have a prob. bending pushrods!! which should be replaced w/a cam change also!

07-21-2009, 11:59 PM	#9
NOmulletLs7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greensboro nc Posts: 12 99 ws6 victory red	well do u have to take the heads off to change the springs, or is there some way u can do it with the heads on cause i hear its really hard to pull the heads on these things with motor in the car. right now its lookin like ill just wait until i get my motor built before i can have the idle i want. cause these r my two other cars and i want it to sound like them! lol, <a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/lx-coupe-SICK_210908.htm"><img src="http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/90/80/210908.jpg"/><br>lx coupe, SICK!</a> <a href="http://videos.streetfire.net/video/NASTY-MALIBU_696150.htm"><img src="http://px5.sfstatic.com/thumbs/0000/16/05/696150.jpg"/><br>NASTY MALIBU!</a>

07-22-2009, 12:04 AM	#10
NOmulletLs7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greensboro nc Posts: 12 99 ws6 victory red	sry idk how to post those as a link yet. lol

07-22-2009, 12:30 AM	#11
KING Z28 HAWK Freezin my A$$ of in Iowa Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fresno Ca/ Cedar Rapids Ia Age: 21 Posts: 1,952 Pewter 2002 Z28 Camaro Stock cuz im broke	Here you go... NASTY+MALIBU! lx+coupe%2c+SICK!

07-22-2009, 01:01 AM	#12
NOmulletLs7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greensboro nc Posts: 12 99 ws6 victory red	awesome! thanks man! i need an instruction manuel for this site, lol

07-22-2009, 01:06 AM	#13
KING Z28 HAWK Freezin my A$$ of in Iowa Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fresno Ca/ Cedar Rapids Ia Age: 21 Posts: 1,952 Pewter 2002 Z28 Camaro Stock cuz im broke	Lol no problem yeah its a little hard at first but next thing you know you'll be on here everyday and doing it like nothing.

07-22-2009, 03:16 AM	#14
mark21742 mild white rice Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: mercersburg pa Age: 34 Posts: 4,537 2004 silver/blue/black/burgand	you can swap out the springs with the heads on, I don't know which threads they arr in, but there are a couple on here if you look back over this past month that have the tool you want....you can make one or buy them for around 30 some bucks

07-22-2009, 10:35 AM	#15
NOmulletLs7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greensboro nc Posts: 12 99 ws6 victory red	thanks for the help guys, now about all i need to know is whats the most lift u can run with out piston to valve clearance problams?

07-22-2009, 11:58 AM	#16
Hi-Po My way to stop breaking v Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan for now. Posts: 9,713 1999 TA WS.6 Black	Stock heads, stock short block, you can fit mid .600's. you will be changing springs more often!

07-22-2009, 10:21 PM	#18
NOmulletLs7 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: greensboro nc Posts: 12 99 ws6 victory red	oh trust me i dont get scared when it comes to doin mods, lol as long as it gets me more power! my mustangs is makin right at 850 until i can get more boost and then im shootin for 1000. one day im hoping the trans am will be there too or as cose as possible, lol and i know yall guys probly dont like hearing about a ford but i love em all as long as it can make big power and f-bodies look so damn good! I dont like rice though, haha. thanks again for the post, im kinda leanin toward a ms3 cam with some comp behive springs and ti retainers