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02-03-2009, 12:06 PM #41
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02-03-2009, 12:10 PM #42
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What are you talking about? There are plenty of S2000 that run high 13s stock. That's like saying there are no F-bodies that run 12s stock. You get a good driver in the car that can launch and hit the shift points it it's going to do better than what Car & Driver presents. I will admit that they do not trap as high as an LS1 in the 1/4, generally around a 97-101mph trap for the AP2s, However, many stock LS1s trap in the low 100s as well. The crossover is close enough to admit that some S2000s will give a stock LS1 a run for it's money. Will it beat it? Probably not, but the LS1 isn't going to put bus lengths on a S2K, at least within the 1/4 mile.
Here are a couple of videos to elaborate my point (all these races both cars are equally modded, either stock or bolt ons):
You must be out of your mind if you think an F-body can outhandle an S2K. The car was designed to spank around the track. The engine was designed and geared for that. Sure you can throw on some parts that asset an F-bodies suspension, and you can also throw on some coilovers and suspension parts that asset an S2K. The F-body was not designed as a track car. It was designed for straight line performance. The F-body is a great looking car, and has a excellent powerplant and straight-line performance..... but other than that I don't think it excels anywhere else.
I am not a big fan of the 350-370Zs. I have a friend that has one and ran high 13s and traped 102mph bone stock. He's in the low 13s now with bolt ons, and he can't drive that great. I would bet you that his car could give a stock LS1 a run for it's money, and do it better than an S2K, which runs out of steam after a while.
Now with all that being said..... which car would I rather drive as a daily? Of course an F-body. I owned one for 2 years and it got great gas mileage had good power, and was a nice daily. I'm not spanking around a track on the street, so an F-body suited me nicely. When I finally wanted to build up a car, I bought a car that I could purpose build to be fast around the track and the drag strip.
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02-03-2009, 12:14 PM #43
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02-03-2009, 03:32 PM #44
Just did a little research, rummaging through a Honda Tech forum. Those guys say 99 percent of S2K drivers are going to run a 14.x quarter mile. They also admit that LSx motors are far superior to their rice engines, but think that F-bodies are ugly and have interiors of astro vans. They also said our cars handle like out-of-control-rhinos. lol...Ricers...
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02-03-2009, 04:34 PM #45
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02-03-2009, 05:06 PM #46
I use to be on M3 forums alot because i owned a 01 M3. Before owning my M, i owend 4 fbodies before and loved camaro's regardless of what i drove at the time. They would bash the camaro's like there is no tomorrow, how they handle like crap, cant brake, look ugly, cheap plastic interior and so on. They forget to mention that the M3 brand new is 50k+ and a base model Z when they were making them especially the last two years was about 24k give or take. Soooooooo for about twice the money it better have better braking, handling, looks and so on because id hate to think i paid all that money out of my pocket just to show off and say i drive an M paying 5-600 a month payments. Funny thing was even the M owners were putting on coilovers, upgrading brakes, doing ebay headers, D/A tune, streamline drop in filter with the intake elbow and so on to get more power out of them just like we do with our cars. I take nothing from the M nor an S2000 they both have there own following but i came back to a camaro for a very good reason, there is nothing like the acceleration and going through the gears with the low end grunt for this amount of money, i think its a bargain.
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02-03-2009, 05:29 PM #47
I tell you what. Go ask an S2000 driver that question and let him tell you like it is. Any "respectable" S2000 guy will tell you an S2000 isn't running with a stock LS1. But you'll probably never believe this no matter who's mouth it comes out of.
Exactly.
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02-03-2009, 05:51 PM #48
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02-03-2009, 06:07 PM #49
You are lost in your own BS.
An LS1 F-body is a MUCH more powerful and faster car than a Honda S2000. We're talking about a car that has over 100WHP more, as well as a much fatter powerband and 3 times more torque. Its not even a comparison.
Here are a couple of videos to elaborate my point (all these races both cars are equally modded, either stock or bolt ons):
Here's a video for you, both have intake/exhaust mods:
You must be out of your mind if you think an F-body can outhandle an S2K. The car was designed to spank around the track. The engine was designed and geared for that. Sure you can throw on some parts that asset an F-bodies suspension, and you can also throw on some coilovers and suspension parts that asset an S2K. The F-body was not designed as a track car. It was designed for straight line performance. The F-body is a great looking car, and has a excellent powerplant and straight-line performance..... but other than that I don't think it excels anywhere else.
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02-03-2009, 09:27 PM #50
Wow I didnt mean this thread to turn into this sort of debate. But it is definitely worth the read. And no way in fuck a stock s2k will keep up with an ls1. I test drove both and the S2000 was quick but slower by far.
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02-04-2009, 05:35 AM #51
350z arent worth anyone's time unless they have forced induction. For the money you spend on one, they really arent that better at handling over F-bodies.
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02-04-2009, 07:31 AM #52
how come we never have any 350z or s2k owners on here? they all to scared to troll on here?
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02-04-2009, 08:07 AM #53
^^^ with some of the vids i see of them beating and keeping up with camaro's and shit talking they do on there forums i would think they would come on here and teach us a thing or two, lol. On a serious note reading some of the other posts, ive never lost to a S2000, even one with full bolt ons. Even with my LT1 6speed ive easily pulled on a S2000 with exhuast and intake mods, so i dont know why even an LT1 would have issues pulling on one unless its F/I. Granted there not cars you drag race with, it handles, brakes good and is a pretty decent convertible car.
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02-04-2009, 08:16 AM #54
Well full bolt ons will give them like 10 HP only... Unless you mean more than I/E/H
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02-04-2009, 02:00 PM #55
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02-04-2009, 06:42 PM #56
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02-04-2009, 07:22 PM #57
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100% stock down to the tire
ALL TIMES HAVE BEEN VERIFIED
1. Pat Bateman ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.150@107.62mph 2.027 60ft
2. Veetec --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.157@105.32mph 1.938 60ft
3. Peak350 -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.239@105.67mph 1.923 60ft
4. Warmmilk ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.412@104.04mph 2.006 60ft
5. Bkennedy ------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.476@102.90mph 2.070 60ft
6. OzzyRulez -----------------------07 Base 6spd 13.514@102.64mph 2.083 60ft
7. 2007-Z --------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.540@102.20mph 2.068 60ft
8. PFI350Z -------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.568@104.69mph 2.159 60ft
9. Veetec --------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.640@102.42mph 1.983 60ft
10. jdifolco -----------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.644@104.68mph 2.201 60ft
11. DomZ ---------------------------03 Tour Auto 13.667@101.57mph 1.996 60ft
12. pistols07Z ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.675@102.31mph 2.150 60ft
13. BriGuyMax ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.688@102.77mph 2.091 60ft
14. Specv_USMC ---------------------07 Base 6spd 13.711@102.88mph 2.163 60ft
15. 350zshopper --------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.733@103.22mph 2.198 60ft
16. 1.8T ---------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.736@102.99mph 2.135 60ft
17. VitViper -----------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.763@100.96mph 2.150 60ft
18. Alberto ------------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.779@101.40mph 2.052 60ft
19. Screamin350Z04 -----------------04 Tour 6spd 13.794@102.72mph 2.089 60ft
20. gsingh350Z ---------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.799@102.39mph 2.247 60ft
21. Nizmo0395 ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 13.815@_99.71mph 1.998 60ft
22. AJcool2 ------------------------04 Tour Auto 13.852@100.25mph 2.127 60ft
23. Gripfordough -------------------03 Trac 6spd 13.861@ 99.36mph 2.105 60ft
24. Accordaleer --------------------07 Tour Auto 13.872@101.xxmph x.xxx 60ft
25. Davidv -------------------------04 Enth 6spd 13.897@101.07mph 2.026 60ft
26. fishbait -----------------------07 _GT_ 6spd 13.905@101.56mph 2.274 60ft
27. SOLO-350Z ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 13.914@_99.18mph 2.083 60ft
28. ART_ ---------------------------07 _GT_ 6spd 13.924@_98.68mph 2.159 60ft
29. dave079-------------------------03 Base 6spd 13.945@101.29mph 2.130 60ft
30. 350JAR -------------------------04 Base 6spd 13.947@102.65mph 2.259 60ft
31. Integrity ----------------------03 Tour 6spd 13.951@101.10mph 2.140 60ft
32. Faithmassive -------------------07 Base 6spd 14.012@100.71mph 2.228 60ft
33. cp79shark ----------------------07 Nsmo 6spd 14.017@_97.83mph 2.152 60ft
34. carlos067 ----------------------06 Enth 6spd 14.029@101.78mph 2.118 60ft
35. Mid117 -------------------------06 Base 6spd 14.041@100.57mph 2.217 60ft
36. ART_ ---------------------------05 Base 6spd 14.097@_99.35mph 2.145 60ft
37. Bigo109 ------------------------03 Enth Auto 14.145@_96.97mph_2.077 60ft
38. wendull ------------------------04 Base 6spd 14.213@100.28mph_2.276 60ft
39. EFLoW --------------------------06 Base 6spd 14.227@_97.89mph_2.050 60ft
40. TopNotch -----------------------03 Tour 6spd 14.288@_99.80mph_2.191 60ft
41. Jonny Boy ----------------------06 _GT_ 6spd 14.297@_99.50mph_2.285 60ft
42. TyWinter -----------------------03 Tour 6spd 14.375@_98.48mph_2.215 60ft
43. TheKinn ------------------------06 Enth 6spd 14.393@_99.49mph 2.357 60ft
44. KS0385 -------------------------08 Base 6spd 15.554@_90.78mph 2.443 60ft
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02-04-2009, 07:45 PM #58
Times have been "verified" by who?? How can you prove they didn't have any mods?? You can't, which is why I don't believe it.
Notice how all the '07 models are running mid 13's at 102-104MPH, and then all of a sudden you have a 13.1 at 105MPH and a 13.1 @ 107MPH?? Sorry, I'm calling bullshit on those times, not even the mags hit times that low or trap speeds that high.
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02-04-2009, 10:42 PM #59
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02-04-2009, 11:23 PM #60
ot Stock/Bolt-ons 07+ VQ35HR
1. Gooey -------------------------- 07 Enth 6spd 12.947@107.11mph 1.796 60ft Verified DR's
2. rkemp1 --------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.210@104.48mph 1.846 60ft Verified slicks
3. Kennedy -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.276@105.89mph 2.048 60ft Verified Street
4. Ex2cinaz ------------------------07 Nism 6spd 13.334@103.48mph 1.953 60ft Verified Street
5. Brady ---------------------------08 Tour 6spd 13.383@102.55mph 2.045 60ft Verified Street
6. WalkerT------------------------- 07 Base 6spd 13.424@105.14mph 2.145 60ft Verified Street
7. 108NismoZ -----------------------07 Nism 6spd 13.454@107.14mph 2.067 60ft Verified Street
8. 0350z33 -----Roadster------------07 Enth Auto 13.491@102.32mph 2.001 60ft Verified Street
9. kd07z ---------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.494@102.70mph 2.095 60ft Verified Street
10. 504Z07 -------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.509@103.90mph 2.141 60ft Verified Street
11. Seb-Specialty-Z---------------- 07 Enth Auto 13.556@104.17mph 2.045 60ft Verified DR's
12. redline06 ----------------------08 Base 6spd 13.583@105.59mph 2.226 60ft Verified Street
13. jdifolco -----------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.605@104.52mph 2.080 60ft Verified Street
14. Skorch -------------------------07 Enth 6spd 13.792@102.79mph 2.098 60ft Verified Street
15. BenchTT-------------------------07 Tour 6spd 13.805@102.99mph 2.308 60ft Verified Street
16. sekret--------------------------07 Base 6spd 13.977@101.66mph 2.233 60ft Verified Street
17. Faithmassive------------------- 07 Base 6spd 13.979@102.66mph 2.321 60ft Verified Street
18. 08carbonslvr ------------------ 08 Base 6spd 14.169@100.42mph 2.231 60ft Verified Street
LOL look at the minimal gain bolt ons got them. LOL! Either the stock one wasnt right or bolt ons dont do SHIT for them.
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