Called out by powerstroked F-250 - Page 3

patricksd · 06-18-2007, 05:37 PM

I have a good friend with a modded 2005 Powerstroke, and while their drag coefficients suck, and they weigh 6,000 lbs., don't let them fool you. With a programmer, intake, exhaust, upgraded intercooler and high ram, his dyno (which I saw in person) was 500 rwhp and 790 ft/lbs of torque.

Now, throw in the fact it is 4wd (every diesel that races launches in 4Hi for traction), and you have a 6,000 lb truck pulling better 60 ft times than a lot of cars. When you have 750+ ft/lbs of torque, 35" tires are nothing. In fact, the increased surface area will help them with traction (imagine launching a vehicle with 500 rwhp and 750 ft/lbs of torque on crappy, stock 265/70/17 tires).

As someone else mentioned, without a power adder - like propane, methonal or nitrous - they aren't going to be that fast top end. But I bet a tuned diesel (Duramax, Cummins or Powerstroke) can and will pull better 60 ft times than stock or near stock LS1's, Mustangs, etc. Why? They unleash tons of torque and have zero traction problems with 4wd.

Food for thought -

Video #1

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...b900313325.htm

Video #2

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5B-nU2qj580

So, racing one from stoplight to stoplight will probably end with consistent losses. But, where you can beat a mildly modded diesel is top end, and I'd expect a stock LS1 to do that. It all depends how many mods the diesel guy has, and what type of race it is.

Musclefan21 · 06-19-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stevegrizzle

downhill track?

down hill track? I have done it at us41 dragway www.us41dragway.com and byron dragway www.byrondragway.com go send them an e-mail if their tracks are downhill. (both of them testet by lasers and 100% straight)

and i have ran 13.43 at 60 dgrees weather!

99bluebird · 06-19-2007, 04:58 PM

One of my friends has an F-250 with 5" exhuast, injectors, chip. If hes in 4x4 you will definetly get beat off the line. I don't pass him until about 40mph. But when I do pass I fly by. Just make sure you have enough room and you wont get embarrased.

iceman504 · 06-19-2007, 06:45 PM

ok i will make sure i have enough room. i just got my car back by the way and my mechanic said to me that my car is not exactly near stock and i have well over 75-100hp over a stock z28. but he said i'm gonna spin tires all day launching unless i ease into it......so i guess i have more mods than i stated

Tyler_LS1 · 06-20-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by iceman504

ok i will make sure i have enough room. i just got my car back by the way and my mechanic said to me that my car is not exactly near stock and i have well over 75-100hp over a stock z28. but he said i'm gonna spin tires all day launching unless i ease into it......so i guess i have more mods than i stated

75-100hp more than a z28 is right around 400hp you must have some major mods you dont know about. cam? heads?

if youve got 100hp over a stock z28 than you will have no problem beating him

just dont spin the tires!

ImpalaSSpeed96 · 06-21-2007, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by doodad

What makes you say that ^^^ ?

I have run many many times 13.5-6 and i ran best of 13.43 in my old bone stock 06 stang GT on stock 18" rubber.

Of course, in -2000DA.....

But I was mainly talking the last Gen stangs, not the new ones. Which would exclude your example. I can believe it, although not in normal wx.

stevegrizzle · 06-21-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by doodad

down hill track? I have done it at us41 dragway www.us41dragway.com and byron dragway www.byrondragway.com go send them an e-mail if their tracks are downhill. (both of them testet by lasers and 100% straight)

and i have ran 13.43 at 60 dgrees weather!

you know im jfwy!

jimmyjones · 06-23-2007, 10:45 PM

I just sold my Heavily modded Duramax. Spent $12,000 in aftermarkets: lift, tires, tranny, exhaust, intake 350 HP programmer. It was pushing around 650 hp at the flywheel and it was fast! At over 80 MPH you will have him no doubt in my mind. From a stop be prepared to be breathing in soot. Like earlier posted he will do a 4wd boosted launch. As long as you have some distance to race you will be fine. Find out exactly what he has and post it. Worse case is you loose and if you do then he deserves the win for spending that much time and money in his truck. JMHO

ripmf666 · 08-03-2009, 04:41 AM

When I 1st started with my truck all I added was a transgo jr and a 1057 suncoast converter. and a exhaust and a PPE hot+2 et hand held tuner. Truck weight is 6900lbs BFG KO's Ran 12.99 @ 107 with 1.89 60's.I had all but 2,500 into it to do that and still get 22 mpg.But alot has changed with her now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0PQLlSwpC4

MYSCZ06 · 08-03-2009, 05:37 AM

had the same thing happen when I was in a full exhaust on Z06 2003. I was riding down 16 heading towards 95S in Savannah,GA he pulls up next to me and was eggin it on I wasnt paying attention to him. I pulled in to get gas at the station before the freeway entrance he pulls in says he wants to run but he needed to swap out his tune (bully dog) I said ok sure he had 4 other rather big guys in there truck as huge/big stacks/big turbo just pretty nasty we hit the highway I gave him the go let him get a lenght or so ahead of me before I hit it I reeled him in so fast and past him like he was broke...damn truck weighs a shit tona dn then he had 4 adults in it .....you will murder this guy!

BLKCLOUD · 08-03-2009, 05:39 AM

Holy 2 year old threads batman!

ripmf666 · 08-03-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD

Holy 2 year old threads batman!

LOL I never saw it was 2 years old

MYSCZ06 · 08-03-2009, 05:58 AM

hahaha damn ...wonder if he won?!

ripmf666 · 08-03-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MYSCZ06

hahaha damn ...wonder if he won?!

Might not of since he never posted it lol

iceman504 · 08-03-2009, 10:28 AM

Actually we never raced so I never updated the thread...Turns out he backed out 1 day before the race because he heard about my car taking on a Harley Davidson and his buddies z28 camaro. oh well haha

ripmf666 · 08-03-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by iceman504

Actually we never raced so I never updated the thread...Turns out he backed out 1 day before the race because he heard about my car taking on a Harley Davidson and his buddies z28 camaro. oh well haha

Sorry for bring this one back from the dead lol atleast we now know that he

Smittro · 08-03-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 2000T/A Guru

Are you joking a duramax with those mods wont run a 14.4. They run like 16s stock lol. I dunno i raced my friends dads bone stock 06 6.6l turbo diesel chevy truck and i beat him by bus loads.

Hmmm Really? Here's one (my buddy's) with a good tune, stock turbo, and a 5" exhaust.
Notice to window says, 12.9, and that day it was hot and his fastest pass was 12.4..

Zinergy · 08-03-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittro

Hmmm Really? Here's one (my buddy's) with a good tune, stock turbo, and a 5" exhaust.
Notice to window says, 12.9, and that day it was hot and his fastest pass was 12.4..

That post was from a long time ago. Dont think your gonna get a debate from that guy lol

ripmf666 · 08-03-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittro

Hmmm Really? Here's one (my buddy's) with a good tune, stock turbo, and a 5" exhaust.
Notice to window says, 12.9, and that day it was hot and his fastest pass was 12.4..

Thats Chris's truck

Smittro · 08-03-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ripmf666

Thats Chris's truck

I know that is Chris's yes he's been my friend for years. And my little brother is Smitty.. Whom you probably know too. If you've seen video of that day chances are it's from my camera too.

06-18-2007, 05:37 PM	#41
patricksd Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Oceanside, CA Age: 29 Posts: 141 2001 Camaro Z28 M6 T-Top Navy Blue Metallic	I have a good friend with a modded 2005 Powerstroke, and while their drag coefficients suck, and they weigh 6,000 lbs., don't let them fool you. With a programmer, intake, exhaust, upgraded intercooler and high ram, his dyno (which I saw in person) was 500 rwhp and 790 ft/lbs of torque. Now, throw in the fact it is 4wd (every diesel that races launches in 4Hi for traction), and you have a 6,000 lb truck pulling better 60 ft times than a lot of cars. When you have 750+ ft/lbs of torque, 35" tires are nothing. In fact, the increased surface area will help them with traction (imagine launching a vehicle with 500 rwhp and 750 ft/lbs of torque on crappy, stock 265/70/17 tires). As someone else mentioned, without a power adder - like propane, methonal or nitrous - they aren't going to be that fast top end. But I bet a tuned diesel (Duramax, Cummins or Powerstroke) can and will pull better 60 ft times than stock or near stock LS1's, Mustangs, etc. Why? They unleash tons of torque and have zero traction problems with 4wd. Food for thought - Video #1 http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...b900313325.htm Video #2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=5B-nU2qj580 So, racing one from stoplight to stoplight will probably end with consistent losses. But, where you can beat a mildly modded diesel is top end, and I'd expect a stock LS1 to do that. It all depends how many mods the diesel guy has, and what type of race it is. Last edited by patricksd; 06-18-2007 at 05:49 PM.

08-03-2009, 04:41 AM	#49
ripmf666 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kansas City Mo Age: 32 Posts: 14 1979 Z-28,2006 2500 Dmax Black	When I 1st started with my truck all I added was a transgo jr and a 1057 suncoast converter. and a exhaust and a PPE hot+2 et hand held tuner. Truck weight is 6900lbs BFG KO's Ran 12.99 @ 107 with 1.89 60's.I had all but 2,500 into it to do that and still get 22 mpg.But alot has changed with her now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0PQLlSwpC4 __________________ Devil Girl 2006 2500HD LBZ Ex-Cab 4x4 EFI Live,GT4202R,PPE lift pump,Dipper 30% injectors,BigDipper Trans 1055 converter 11.53 @ 116.92 1.66 60' http://www.dieselbuilder.com/Media/P...adoBuild_2.pdf Last edited by ripmf666; 08-03-2009 at 05:33 AM.

06-19-2007, 04:58 PM	#43
99bluebird Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 111 1999 Pontiac Trans Am Medium Blue Metallic	One of my friends has an F-250 with 5" exhuast, injectors, chip. If hes in 4x4 you will definetly get beat off the line. I don't pass him until about 40mph. But when I do pass I fly by. Just make sure you have enough room and you wont get embarrased.

06-19-2007, 06:45 PM	#44
iceman504 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis,TN Age: 21 Posts: 119 2001 Z28 Camaro Black	ok i will make sure i have enough room. i just got my car back by the way and my mechanic said to me that my car is not exactly near stock and i have well over 75-100hp over a stock z28. but he said i'm gonna spin tires all day launching unless i ease into it......so i guess i have more mods than i stated

06-23-2007, 10:45 PM	#48
jimmyjones Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego Age: 31 Posts: 34 2002 WS6 SOM	I just sold my Heavily modded Duramax. Spent $12,000 in aftermarkets: lift, tires, tranny, exhaust, intake 350 HP programmer. It was pushing around 650 hp at the flywheel and it was fast! At over 80 MPH you will have him no doubt in my mind. From a stop be prepared to be breathing in soot. Like earlier posted he will do a 4wd boosted launch. As long as you have some distance to race you will be fine. Find out exactly what he has and post it. Worse case is you loose and if you do then he deserves the win for spending that much time and money in his truck. JMHO

08-03-2009, 05:37 AM	#50
MYSCZ06 Military Muscle :usa: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: FT Hood Age: 36 Posts: 507 2003 Corvette Z06 Millienum Yellow	had the same thing happen when I was in a full exhaust on Z06 2003. I was riding down 16 heading towards 95S in Savannah,GA he pulls up next to me and was eggin it on I wasnt paying attention to him. I pulled in to get gas at the station before the freeway entrance he pulls in says he wants to run but he needed to swap out his tune (bully dog) I said ok sure he had 4 other rather big guys in there truck as huge/big stacks/big turbo just pretty nasty we hit the highway I gave him the go let him get a lenght or so ahead of me before I hit it I reeled him in so fast and past him like he was broke...damn truck weighs a shit tona dn then he had 4 adults in it .....you will murder this guy!

08-03-2009, 05:39 AM	#51
BLKCLOUD Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 980 Plain-Jane Dodge Truck B2300 (Fluffy) Retired	Holy 2 year old threads batman!

08-03-2009, 05:58 AM	#53
MYSCZ06 Military Muscle :usa: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: FT Hood Age: 36 Posts: 507 2003 Corvette Z06 Millienum Yellow	hahaha damn ...wonder if he won?!

08-03-2009, 10:28 AM	#55
iceman504 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis,TN Age: 21 Posts: 119 2001 Z28 Camaro Black	Actually we never raced so I never updated the thread...Turns out he backed out 1 day before the race because he heard about my car taking on a Harley Davidson and his buddies z28 camaro. oh well haha