lol it happens, here lately it really seems like the kill forum is dominated by non-fbod cars. no offense to anyone on here w/o a f bod.
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I don't know what my friend's '07 runs stock, he hasn't had it to the track. I've rode in/driven it plenty of times though, and its pretty damn slow. Feels like a 15.0 second car. My friends 94 Mustang GT actually feels faster, then again they both trap about the same.
My friend had the Cobb Stage 2 programmer only. No other mods, just the programmer itself for $600. It was supposed to give it like 25HP, but I didn't really notice any difference.
Wesman if it were the fastest car in the world you'd find an issue with it because it's not an LS1.
Programmer is probably going to turn the boost up a bit and adjust the air/fuel. If he didn't have supporting mods with the tune.... it would be useless, hence no change in performance.
.... and on a WRX you can get 25+whp from deleting all the cats with a straight 3" exhaust. The 3 stock cats choke the car. I would say that is the biggest modification on any BPU turbo 4 banger. Back when my 240SX had a BPU SR20DET, I noticed a difference with a full 3" exhaust. It also put on 27whp more on the dyno with no tuning or boost increase.
It's strange that you would feel a Mustang GT as being faster. Turbo cars are generally more deceptive to the butt dyno. I remember when my 240SX, under BPU power, was putting out 250whp. My car "felt" faster than a bolt ons LS1, but the performance was about equal or a bit slower which was weird since an LS1 felt like it was going for a cruise and my car felt like it was boosting it's stock turbo apart. It must be the rush of going from no power to some power that is deceptive, where as an LS1 has a flat power band, so it feels the same everywhere.
Like I said, no supporting mods, just the programmer. Hence the modest power increase.
Thats why I think a larger motor feels faster to me even if it has about the same power as a smaller one. Instead of that sudden but short burst of power, you have a fat powerband that sets you in the seat and keeps you there!!Quote:
It's strange that you would feel a Mustang GT as being faster. Turbo cars are generally more deceptive to the butt dyno. I remember when my 240SX, under BPU power, was putting out 250whp. My car "felt" faster than a bolt ons LS1, but the performance was about equal or a bit slower which was weird since an LS1 felt like it was going for a cruise and my car felt like it was boosting it's stock turbo apart. It must be the rush of going from no power to some power that is deceptive, where as an LS1 has a flat power band, so it feels the same everywhere.
Back to the original post, that actually made me laugh out load
The wrx is gonna hook ya bad!