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This is a discussion on T56 Related Questions..... within the Drivetrain forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; My 02' SS/LE has 123K miles on it. I have put the last 10K on. Since I got it, if ...

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    T56 Related Questions.....

    My 02' SS/LE has 123K miles on it. I have put the last 10K on.

    Since I got it, if you shift into 5th under power, it will grind/grab. If you slowly shift into 5th, no problem.

    When I let clutch out in 1st, I am getting a rattle that goes away as soon as full engagement happens.

    Other than 5th issue, trans is perfect.

    What is best course of action?

    Thanks.
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    I sounds like your syncro's may be on the way out. If that is the case then a rebuild is in your near future.
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    The first gear issue sounds like clutch chatter....how old is the clutch?

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    Aside from J's question, does it ever pop out of gear?
    It's on jackstands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    The first gear issue sounds like clutch chatter....how old is the clutch?
    I assume original, 123K miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Aside from J's question, does it ever pop out of gear?
    No, other than grab/grind going into 5th under power, trans is perfect.

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    Since it's only 5th and you hear grinding, I'm going to guess it's your 5th gear synchro that's on its way out.

    Typically though, those are less prone to go bad because most people don't shift into 5th at WOT. 5th is an overdrive gear and I would never recommend shifting hard into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Typically though, those are less prone to go bad because most people don't shift into 5th at WOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS View Post
    Since it's only 5th and you hear grinding, I'm going to guess it's your 5th gear synchro that's on its way out.

    Typically though, those are less prone to go bad because most people don't shift into 5th at WOT. 5th is an overdrive gear and I would never recommend shifting hard into it.
    This is my 5th LS1 T56 vehicle. 5th has done this since I bought it 10K miles ago. I have always treated 5th and 6th as granny shifts but did not have the pleasure of owning this one since new. I believe I am the third owner.

    So I guess a new clutch (recommendations?) and a 5th/6th cluster rebuild is in order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ls1camino View Post
    Monster Clutches are god in the LSx world.
    For a daily driver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfl330 View Post
    For a daily driver?

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    Get a Stage 1 or 2. I'm upgrading my Stage 4 to a Stage 5 soon and I'll drive it to work in dress clothes on nice days without question.

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    You get used to it. Like Jeremy, I also have a pretty aggressive clutch (Spec Stage 3+) rated at 850 lb-ft and I have zero issues driving the car in stop/go traffic. Couldn't even tell you what a stock clutch feels like anymore, but I can say I don't miss it any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfl330 View Post
    For a daily driver?

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    I'm getting ready to put in a LS7 clutch with a Tick master cylinder there are some good wright ups on here to maybe give you some other ideas...
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    I like the LS7 as well. Good clutch, fits perfect, easy on the left leg and reliable.

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    I liked my LS7 with the Tick as well....it was REALLY grabby the first few hundred miles, stalled it a lot...but after that it was like butter...I could even start in 5th gear from a dead stop.

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