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Strange S60 or 12 Bolt?

This is a discussion on Strange S60 or 12 Bolt? within the Drivetrain forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; where are your facts there bud?...

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    where are your facts there bud?

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    This is what I've been considering. Link for the S60. From what I've seen the S60 is actually cheaper than the 9" from where i've been pricing.

    http://www.strangeengineering.net/ne...earendAD1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    where are your facts there bud?
    Did you read the links I posted there bud?
    http://www.sunrayengineering.com/nine.html
    http://www.truehi9.com/gears2.html
    Cliff's notes for ya:
    - Ford 9" pinion is significantly larger than a D60, closer to the size of a D80.
    - Ford 9" ring gear is thicker.
    - Ford 9" pinion is supported on both sides.
    - Ford 9" has greater vertical pinion offset, giving it more teeth in mesh.
    - Ford 9" pinion teeth are at a steeper angle, putting more teeth in mesh.
    - Ford 9" has thicker teeth.
    - Ford 9" is lighter than D60.
    - Ford 9" main caps are larger and thicker than D60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    5/8 studs...9.75 ring gear..thats .75 bigger then the 9"...and a 35 or 40 spline...how is it weaker?
    Here I'll post pics and if you can't see it your blind!!












    9"................................................ ........Weak HEAVY 60
    Some kids are SOOOO polluted from BULLSHIT posted on the web.
    I do this for a fucking living. It's not a sfter work hobby or interest I build motors and complete cars. I don't get any business from this board NOR to I need any. So I'm on here posting facts for help. Not trying to seel any make or brand. I have seen alot of shit built cars in the past 13 years and learned alot from my on-hand experiances.Not any BS I read on the web.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Here I'll post pics and if you can't see it your blind!!

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    9"................................................ ........Weak HEAVY 60
    Some kids are SOOOO polluted from BULLSHIT posted on the web.
    I do this for a fucking living. It's not a sfter work hobby or interest I build motors and complete cars. I don't get any business from this board NOR to I need any. So I'm on here posting facts for help. Not trying to seel any make or brand. I have seen alot of shit built cars in the past 13 years and learned alot from my on-hand experiances.Not any BS I read on the web.
    damn well
    relax..lord..polluted? that is an extreme over statement. well then i have only 1 more question for you actually, because i am curious. is the brand-new f-body dana s60 the same as the old a-g body s60...and are these comparisons to the old s60 or the new one. Also dont get so secure about how long you've worked on cars..that it makes you somehow always right..i have people at my work that think since they have been working on computers since the late 80s that us "kids" dont know shit. However i setup and cleaned up there mistakes on their dns server here.

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    I have the Moser 9" under mine and so far the only problem I have is it sits alot higher in the rear even with weaker springs and the snub start hitting the inside lip of rims which it never did previously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slims00ls1z28 View Post
    I have the Moser 9" under mine and so far the only problem I have is it sits alot higher in the rear even with weaker springs and the snub start hitting the inside lip of rims which it never did previously.
    i was looking at the m9s and damn there housing look amazing

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    so with this new information..i might be going with the m9..but chances are that i will still go with the s60 down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Here I'll post pics and if you can't see it your blind!!

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    9"................................................ ........Weak HEAVY 60
    Some kids are SOOOO polluted from BULLSHIT posted on the web.
    I do this for a fucking living. It's not a sfter work hobby or interest I build motors and complete cars. I don't get any business from this board NOR to I need any. So I'm on here posting facts for help. Not trying to seel any make or brand. I have seen alot of shit built cars in the past 13 years and learned alot from my on-hand experiances.Not any BS I read on the web.
    nice pics!! and wow thats definitly a bunch of bullshit dana is puttin out there about theres being so much stronger than the 9inch.....looks quite obvious from the pics the 9 is stronger

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    Sold me on the 9"! I bought one and will have it installed in the next few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    so with this new information..i might be going with the m9..but chances are that i will still go with the s60 down the road.
    Are you M6 or A4?

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    Doesn't top fuel use a 9" rear? And they make 7-8,000hp....I'm pretty sure a 9" is the strongest thing you can buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns00Z28 View Post
    Doesn't top fuel use a 9" rear? And they make 7-8,000hp....
    definaetely not.

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    Yeah I'm thinking of a 12 inch rear, my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    It's all good.

    No biggie just people tend to believe everything they read on the web. There is just NO point to have all that added unsprung weight to me. Unsprung is more critical.

    We rip them out of chassis race cars. The only muscle cars that came with the Dana 60's are the BIG money MOPARS.

    And then everyone hopes on the ding-dong of these BIG brand name rearends. Unless your over a 1000hp and have a chassis that is going to dead hook your wasting money. You aren't breaking a 31,33,or35 spline axle with under 1000hp. Plus if you go with the 9" we almost always go with the 33spline axles due to the fact the price is the same. The only reason we use 31 is because you might already have a 3member that has a 31 spline spool or locker.

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    Im going with a 9'' too, Hey i looked at that link and they dont have a rear end that will fit my car. should i call them

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Are you M6 or A4?
    a4 so i know the dana and even the 9" is over kill but the m9 is about the same price for a 12 bolt so why not.

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    Granted I only skimmed over some of this thread, but it looks like a lot of the 9 inch stuff that is being compared to the dana 60 is biased. Looks like the 9 inch stuff is aftermarket and is being compared to stock dana parts. Not saying it is, I've never seen stock 9 inch parts, so I don't know what they look like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurraquio View Post
    Im going with a 9'' too, Hey i looked at that link and they dont have a rear end that will fit my car. should i call them
    They make a rearend for Anything and will beat Anyones prices. A few other members on the site are currently running their 9"s in F body's.



    Quote Originally Posted by C&Cbird View Post
    Granted I only skimmed over some of this thread, but it looks like a lot of the 9 inch stuff that is being compared to the dana 60 is biased. Looks like the 9 inch stuff is aftermarket and is being compared to stock dana parts. Not saying it is, I've never seen stock 9 inch parts, so I don't know what they look like.
    No the pics are stock carrier caps. And the S60 that everyone is referring to is a aftermarket Dana60 for F Body's. Regardless that is just the housing. The ring and pinion design sticks with the rear no matter stock housing or not. Which speaks miles if you look closely at the pics. In my opinion more contact area ='s more strength.

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    FYI - I deal with Autofab Race Cars and i know they are one of the biggest Strange, Moser, QA1, Wilwood etc. dealers in the country and beat anybodys advertised price too....and ive never found the stuff cheaper anywhere. If interested give Josh a call at 410 796 8777

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    a4 so i know the dana and even the 9" is over kill but the m9 is about the same price for a 12 bolt so why not.
    12 bolt is all you need for an A4 really. I know 4 guys with 8-9 second LSX f bods. 1.3-1.4 sixtys off the trans brake (th 400s), all with 12 bolts. Dont believe any of em ever broke em. Just something to consider.

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