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This is a discussion on Strange S60 or 12 Bolt? within the Drivetrain forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; [QUOTE=shady milkman;1378103] Originally Posted by INMY01TA Is your car manual or auto? For an auto a 12 bolt (prefferibly Strange) ...

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    [QUOTE=shady milkman;1378103]
    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Is your car manual or auto? For an auto a 12 bolt (prefferibly Strange) will do fine. Most efficient of em all. For manual I'd go 9' with Detroit Locker. Strongest of the 3.[/QUOTE

    both of you guys are wrong..the dana s60 is the strongest by far and also the 9" does not take less power to spin then the other two..thats a downright lie actually..the 9" is the most inefficient of the 3.

    9 is the cheapest..followed by the dana s60 and then the 12bolt
    the s60 is the most efficient , followed by the 12 then the 9"
    the 9 is the heaviest, then the 12, then the s60
    WTF???

    Sorry but you must read too much BS on the web. A Dana 60 is the heaviest most in efficient rearend out there!! Thats why none of use run them. We buy old school race cars with them and cut them out and scrap them.

    "the dana s60 is the strongest by far " No shit it is an over built heavy rearend. Unless you got 1300hp why put the heaviest rearend you can buy???
    Sorry but you have your info seriously twisted if you even begin to think a 9" is anywhere near the weight of a Dana 60.
    Have you ever looked at the two of them side by side.
    Not just reading some bullshit on the web someone posted. We build tube chassis cars on a table off of jigs. I'm stating straight facts. I have been building cars for 14 years and you are wrong.
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    Yeah it only goes 8.0's but we settled for a 9".

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    ok i think i am going with a 9" any suggestions on brand or make? Any specific setup? I mean this is still a daily driver not just a strip car. Lemme know.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patsy57 View Post
    ok i think i am going with a 9" any suggestions on brand or make? Any specific setup? I mean this is still a daily driver not just a strip car. Lemme know.

    Thanks



    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Neither!! I would put a 9" in it. Stronger,less power to spin,easier gear swaps,looks much cleaner.

    You can get a complete 9" with a Detroit Locker for cheaper that that S60 or a 12 bolt.

    They will beat anyones prices and if you do some research a few other members have already bought one from these guys. They will make what ever length you want for added tire clearance also.

    http://stores.ebay.com/Quick-Performance-Racing
    As I already posted THEY WILL BEAT ANY PRICE!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by xzaero0 View Post
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    yup i second, also If I were you I would opt for the alum center section saves i think about 45lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    As I already posted THEY WILL BEAT ANY PRICE!!!

    See what would be good but I do not know the Specs on what exactly i want. This is all new to me

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    Just make sure that you get all the suspension parts to go along with it. Your car will stiffen up, ride better and feel way more stable under hard accl/decel. And your rear end wont flex anymore, so even if it is heavier you will still prolly put more power down than the 10 bolt did under hard driving.

    I'm told that it is easier to change the gear ratio in the 9". So if you were going to drive it across county you could always run a higher gear and change it out in your garage.

    The gears I went to I gained about 200rpm @ 60mph figured it out and still get +23mpg mostly highway driving...but I need a better tune.

    One more thing I went with the 31 spline axles...I fugured that I would prolly never have to have the need for the 33.

    I payed for mine along with the UMI torque arm relocation bracket delivery and install for less than $2,800

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patsy57 View Post
    See what would be good but I do not know the Specs on what exactly i want. This is all new to me
    The key things you need to know is WHAT tire are you going to run (dia.)?
    WHAT gear you need to keep the rpm in your power band?
    Stock cam?
    Those are the few key determining points I would use to make my decision.
    I prefer a Locker versus a clutch or cone type posi because I really enjoy doing donuts which will burn up the other types. The Detroit locker is mechanical and won't wear out. Some don't like due to the noise but I actually like the clicking. Most have such loud exhaust now the clicking around corners would Never be heard.

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    [QUOTE=LS2Tuner;1378327]
    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post

    WTF???

    Sorry but you must read too much BS on the web. A Dana 60 is the heaviest most in efficient rearend out there!! Thats why none of use run them. We buy old school race cars with them and cut them out and scrap them.

    "the dana s60 is the strongest by far " No shit it is an over built heavy rearend. Unless you got 1300hp why put the heaviest rearend you can buy???
    Sorry but you have your info seriously twisted if you even begin to think a 9" is anywhere near the weight of a Dana 60.
    Have you ever looked at the two of them side by side.
    Not just reading some bullshit on the web someone posted. We build tube chassis cars on a table off of jigs. I'm stating straight facts. I have been building cars for 14 years and you are wrong.

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    Yeah it only goes 8.0's but we settled for a 9".

    relax captain. i never said it was the lightest rearend..but it has the least amount of gear loss..at 5%
    now this is where i might be mistaken..but isnt there a old dana s60..and a brand new dana s60 that is specifically made for the f-bod that strange released a little bit ago? if your ripping them out of old muscle cars then we must be not on the same level...

    p.s i never said i hated the 9" or it wasn't good. its one of the most stout rears around...never denied it..but you traded off more gear loss for that stoutness

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    opps i apologizes..i didnt mean heaviest in my original post..the dana does way more then the other two..my bad

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    It's all good.

    No biggie just people tend to believe everything they read on the web. There is just NO point to have all that added unsprung weight to me. Unsprung is more critical.

    We rip them out of chassis race cars. The only muscle cars that came with the Dana 60's are the BIG money MOPARS.

    And then everyone hopes on the ding-dong of these BIG brand name rearends. Unless your over a 1000hp and have a chassis that is going to dead hook your wasting money. You aren't breaking a 31,33,or35 spline axle with under 1000hp. Plus if you go with the 9" we almost always go with the 33spline axles due to the fact the price is the same. The only reason we use 31 is because you might already have a 3member that has a 31 spline spool or locker.

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    31 spline axle (last I checked anyways) is the max you can run with the Detroit TruTrac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Luos View Post
    31 spline axle (last I checked anyways) is the max you can run with the Detroit TruTrac.
    Your probably right about a TruTrack Never ran one or had a customer buy one. That uses a complete different design than a dog toothed Detroit Locker that I was referring to.

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    now i dont beleive anything i thought b/c eveyone contradics everyone!! Damn it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TransAm11973 View Post
    now i dont beleive anything i thought b/c eveyone contradics everyone!! Damn it!
    what were you thinking?

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    originally posted by shady milkman
    both of you guys are wrong..the dana s60 is the strongest by far

    Apparently I'm not the only one that disagrees.
    http://www.sunrayengineering.com/nine.html
    http://www.truehi9.com/gears2.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    actually i am pretty sure no one is arguing that the f-bod s60 isn't the strongest..it deff is

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    originally posted by shady milkmanactually i am pretty sure no one is arguing that the f-bod s60 isn't the strongest..it deff is not
    Fixed. It's cool, your entitled to you factless opinion.

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    5/8 studs...9.75 ring gear..thats .75 bigger then the 9"...and a 35 or 40 spline...how is it weaker?

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