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This is a discussion on Stock 10 bolt within the Drivetrain forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS Ok folks, for those that don't know: GM made the 12 bolt, so called because it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    Ok folks, for those that don't know:

    GM made the 12 bolt, so called because it uses 12 bolts to hold the ring gear to the carrier. It uses a ring gear of 8-7/8" diameter. It's the lightest duty one but folks like it because it's originally a GM part. They put it behind all the high performance GM cars of the 60's. While GM never put a 12 bolt into a car with a torque arm (no direct replacement) MWC (Moser) makes an aftermarket version that bolts in.

    Ford makes the 9", so called because the ring gear is 9" in diameter. It'll handle more torque than the 12 bolt due to the larger bearing surface of the pinion bearing. This is what Ford used behind all of their high performance cars in the 60's. It also uses more torque to turn so greater driveline loss. Aftermarket makes bolt in versions for us.

    Dana makes the Dana 60 which uses a 9-3/8" diameter ring gear. This is what you want for that 2500hp monster you always wanted to build. Afterall, Mother Mopar put them behind the 426 Hemi with a 4-speed, so.... Creates greater driveline loss than a 12 bolt or 9" but it's the ultimate in reliability. Aftermarket makes one for our cars too but it's more expensive also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    10 bolts can be noisy, many if not most are. GM makes/recommends an additive but I forget the name that will help quiet things down in your 10 bolt.. The aditive can usually be puchased @ any auto parts store...
    i added the aditive and it still makes that noise..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    He has 3.73's in there now. I can think of many or most stock 10's that are quite. With 3.73's I would wonder about the gear setup and backlash..
    So you think it's a crush sleeve or bearing issue or both? Curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Streak View Post
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    The same place you started it in....

    Next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98maro View Post
    i added the aditive and it still makes that noise..
    we had to replace the oil at 500 miles to double check everithin was fine inside the pumpkin ..
    hmm It may be inside the trany.. More curious..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    Not saying he did bad work.. But $100 for a gear change is well cheap.. Anyone can swap gears. Not all can set the gears up correctly.
    i dnt think he did a bad job,,, i think the problm is the gears.. idk what brand they are,,
    the whole job came less than $400 dollars any other shop was chargin 4800 Just for labor..
    but nxt time i get the 4,10s ill make sure i get somethin is better quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    hmm It may be inside the trany.. More curious..
    it comes from the bk.. i think is the rear end..
    some mechanics say it could be normal.. but i just dnt like that noise,, long trips.. it gets on my nerves,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Streak View Post
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    haha i just started laughing lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98maro View Post
    it comes from the bk.. i think is the rear end..
    some mechanics say it could be normal.. but i just dnt like that noise,, long trips.. it gets on my nerves,,
    There was a group member that had an extremely noisey rear on his camaro... some are like that.. some aren't. Gotta love cars..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98maro View Post
    it comes from the bk.. i think is the rear end..
    some mechanics say it could be normal.. but i just dnt like that noise,, long trips.. it gets on my nerves,,
    I gotcha.. You know I'm starting to wonder if you have a dry universal starting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    So you think it's a crush sleeve or bearing issue or both? Curious.
    I could be the shims (to few to many) between pinion and the rear bearing,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS View Post
    The same place you started it in....

    Next?
    Hmm... I think thats all I got..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    I could be the shims (to few to many) between pinion and the rear bearing,
    Oohh I did'nt even think about the pinion shims..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Streak View Post
    Hmm... I think thats all I got..
    You have more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    Oohh I did'nt even think about the pinion shims..
    And you have shims on the sides of the diff also right ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    And you have shims on the sides of the diff also right ??
    so do my puller car manual transaxles..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28Thunder View Post
    You have more...
    OOh Ooh.... what would happen if a 4th Gen SS was mixed with a 1st Gen T/A?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Streak View Post
    There was a group member that had an extremely noisey rear on his camaro... some are like that.. some aren't. Gotta love cars..
    i only bothers me when im with a girl and i roll up the windows put the volume down so we can talk... but he noise is there and we cant hear nothing we sayin thanks to that noise,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98maro View Post
    i only bothers me when im with a girl and i roll up the windows put the volume down so we can talk... but he noise is there and we cant hear nothing we sayin thanks to that noise,,
    If you can TALK in a performance car... you're missing a few cylinders.. or you're in a Mustang.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smittro View Post
    I gotcha.. You know I'm starting to wonder if you have a dry universal starting...
    i dnt get it sorry lol
    what u mean?

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