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3.73's or 3500 stall

This is a discussion on 3.73's or 3500 stall within the Drivetrain forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; i was wanting some input on which mod wuld be the best to do next on my car... thanks ahead ...

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    3.73's or 3500 stall

    i was wanting some input on which mod wuld be the best to do next on my car...
    thanks ahead of time for you advice

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    Stall. Not even a comparison between the two.
    It's on jackstands.

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    thanks.. which brand should i get? also would i need to send my computer to frost again for tune?

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    Converter hands down is the best bang for your buck.

    If your car is a WS6, it would already have 3.23's, I'd leave that well enough alone. You might find after a nice converter change you'll like the 3.23's. The converter will turn it into a tire scorcher.

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    now you got me exicted!!
    so what would be my best bet for brand?

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    Yank or Vigilante (Precision Industries) are the 2 most popular it seems.

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    I went with 3.73's and a 3,200 stall in our car. Now that I have raced and driven it quite a bit, I wouldn't go with anything less than 3,600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanWS6 View Post
    i was wanting some input on which mod wuld be the best to do next on my car...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanWS6 View Post
    thanks.. which brand should i get? also would i need to send my computer to frost again for tune?
    My PCM qualifies for frequent flyer miles it's been to Frost so much !
    I'm probably the only one on this forum to ask this but what exact differences do you benefit from the stall converter ? Does it use more fuel ? Does it effect around town stop & go driving ? If you look at my mods it would appear that this would be my next logical step. Not trying to high jack your post Nathan. I thought you would be a good person to answer my questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrokit8 View Post
    My PCM qualifies for frequent flyer miles it's been to Frost so much !
    I'm probably the only one on this forum to ask this but what exact differences do you benefit from the stall converter ? Does it use more fuel ? Does it effect around town stop & go driving ? If you look at my mods it would appear that this would be my next logical step. Not trying to high jack your post Nathan. I thought you would be a good person to answer my questions.

    Even though I have read about higher stall converters, and talked to people that have them in their cars, I found that you almost have to drive one to fully appreciate it. The higher stall converter allows the engine to rev up faster to get into the rpm range where the power is. You will notice with higher stall converters that you have to give them a little more gas to get them moving from a stop. Other than that, so long as your converter retains its lock up functions, it really won't affect how you drive the car although the gas mileage will suffer somewhat. At the track, a higher stall converter is worth almost one-half second. It dropped my 60 foot times from around 1.9 down to a 1.6 and the car went from a 12.8 best down to a 12.4 with the new converter and transmission. Highly recommended.

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    ok 3500 or 3600 stall... how important is the STR? how do i know which is best for my application?

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    Easiest way to explain it is the higher the STR the harder the converter hits.

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    3600 or higher. Whatever you decide on go one higher.

    Quote Originally Posted by nathanWS6 View Post
    ok 3500 or 3600 stall... how important is the STR? how do i know which is best for my application?

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    It basically gets you into your powerband sooner. Our dreaded 2-3 shift doesn't bog down as much.
    When you first drive one, its like a slipping clutch. But you will get used to it within a week or so and wished you got a higher stall. At speeds above 45, the stall will lockup and drive like stock.
    The best thing to do is try to drive a stalled car.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redrokit8 View Post
    My PCM qualifies for frequent flyer miles it's been to Frost so much !
    I'm probably the only one on this forum to ask this but what exact differences do you benefit from the stall converter ? Does it use more fuel ? Does it effect around town stop & go driving ? If you look at my mods it would appear that this would be my next logical step. Not trying to high jack your post Nathan. I thought you would be a good person to answer my questions.

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    Ok, I understand I'll have to find one to drive. Thanks Jeff & Ed for the explanation.

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    I've been ready and seeing alot of people putting in stalls.. what are they ans what is there purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boothe View Post
    I've been ready and seeing alot of people putting in stalls.. what are they ans what is there purpose

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    "Stall" is simply a generic term for a torque converter. A torque converter is essentially a fluid coupling that connects the engine to the automatic transmission. It allows the engine to idle with the vehicle in gear, and then as the rpm is increased it applies force to the portion of the converter attached to the transmission input shaft. See the explanations posted above for more info on why increased stall speed is desirable in our cars.

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    Awesome thank you so much for the information

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