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This is a discussion on 10bolt build up? within the Drivetrain forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; ok, let me start by sayin i am really confused, so help me out if you can, i jus bought ...

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    10bolt build up?

    ok, let me start by sayin i am really confused, so help me out if you can, i jus bought a set of bfg drag radial 2's so this topic is important to me, can a 10 bolt be built up so it doesnt break? or do you have to go with a 12 bolt in order to maintain your rear? if a 10 bolt can be built up, where could you have it done or where could you get the parts? any info would help me greatly

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    I am interested in the same thing...

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    generally everyone says not to waste $ on your 10bolt. Just save for the 12bolt. But i think a rear end girdle would help it last a little longer.

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    do you have a link to such a part, i am assuming it will strengthen the 10 bolt.

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    i read an article in gm high tech saying that it will help it last longer/ hold up better.

    They are on many websites and from many companies. But i think they are all pretty similar.

    http://www.lmperformance.com/681/1.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MavrickCJH View Post
    can a 10 bolt be built up so it doesnt break?
    With an M6 car running slicks you are almost guarenteed to have to buy an aftermarket rear. The A4 cars are a lot more gentle on the rear. There are some running in the 9's with a 10 bolt behind an A4 trans. If you are running big hp with an M6 you are better off to go with a 9" because even the 12 bolt will break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokin_ls1 View Post
    With an M6 car running slicks you are almost guarenteed to have to buy an aftermarket rear. The A4 cars are a lot more gentle on the rear. There are some running in the 9's with a 10 bolt behind an A4 trans. If you are running big hp with an M6 you are better off to go with a 9" because even the 12 bolt will break.
    what if I do 3200 stall, 3.73 gears, and run 500rwhp. would that hold up pretty nicely for A4 with stock 10?

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    You can build a 10 bolt to hold up to approx 425 RWHP.
    You need to Weld the axle tubes install a good Carrier, Gears, Axles(31 spline) and a T/A Girdle. They did it in a previous issue of High Performance Pontiac Magazine. And it was well under $1000.

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    If I were you and running the A4 I wouldn't worry about the rear until it started making noises or giving me problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9T8W66 View Post
    You can build a 10 bolt to hold up to approx 425 RWHP.
    You need to Weld the axle tubes install a good Carrier, Gears, Axles(31 spline) and a T/A Girdle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    ouch he just raised the bs flag.....

    Lol man.......just give up on it man.....trying to build up a 10 bolt besides just a cover is like ricers trying to build up their little 4 bangers.....

    Cost way too much and aint worth it....

    SOrry man......If u got the money and the opportunity save up for a 12 bolt

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    Termin8tr on tech was running a 10 bolt/M6 setup making 490rwhp + nitrous and never broke the rear but he has since went with a 9".

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    I am running just north of 500rwhp & 500rwtq with the 10bolt M6 on Nitto DR's.....I run Motive 3.90's with the T/A cover. I keep the 60's nice and soft 1.8's and that allows me to run 11.4's @ 127. Oh, I don't powershift either. I have also run 4.10's and 4.30's in this rear.......broke 4 teeth off the 4.10 ring gear when I got some really bad wheel hop, learned a lesson!!!

    Keep in mind I leave the line just above idle 1100-1400rpm and back out of the clutch "kinda" quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    ok. thats why my 'vert SS and Ed's 'vert at 3850 w/ driver are in the 10's w/ 10 bolts. and holding up. his is stock, mine has solid spacer, richmond gears, new Eaton posi, LPW girdle. stock axles and running slicks! goes to show that an A4 w/ 500+ rwhp will live.

    im not telling A4 guys to not buy a better rear end, just that theres living proof that the 10 bolt will go a for quite a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99RedRagtop View Post
    ok. thats why my 'vert SS and Ed's 'vert at 3850 w/ driver are in the 10's w/ 10 bolts. and holding up. his is stock, mine has solid spacer, richmond gears, new Eaton posi, LPW girdle. stock axles and running slicks! goes to show that an A4 w/ 500+ rwhp will live.

    im not telling A4 guys to not buy a better rear end, just that theres living proof that the 10 bolt will go a for quite a while.
    Yes A4's can get by longer with a ten bolt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokin_ls1 View Post
    With an M6 car running slicks you are almost guarenteed to have to buy an aftermarket rear. The A4 cars are a lot more gentle on the rear. There are some running in the 9's with a 10 bolt behind an A4 trans. If you are running big hp with an M6 you are better off to go with a 9" because even the 12 bolt will break.
    Bad information!!!! A 12 BOLT is just as good as a 9"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9t8z28 View Post
    Bad information!!!! A 12 BOLT is just as good as a 9"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    12 bolts break all the time behind a six speed. 9 inch is basically bullet proof.

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    Wrong again!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9t8z28 View Post
    Wrong again!!!!!
    I know at least 10 people personally that broke broke their 12 bolts. You don't know what you're talking about!

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