SS Silverado is no more... :(
This is a discussion on SS Silverado is no more... :( within the GM Trucks forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by Smittro The reason you don't see manual transmissions in many GM vehicles is, simply put, no one ...
07-06-2012, 06:26 AM #161
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07-06-2012, 06:47 AM #162
However if you ask just about any high volume dealer manual trany car/trucks usually end up just sitting on their lots waiting for a buyer while the same make model in an auto is selling.
When I was a kid just about everyone I knew could drive a standard shift vehicle,
today many folks can't drive a "stick" (as many young folk call them).
I even have a buddy so unfamilier with the workings of cars that he calls an automatic with a console shifter a "stick".
We went to a car show years ago and he asked a guy with a 454 Chevelle, quote, "what you got in there 10 big blocks or something?" end quote..
The guy looks @ him then looks @ me like, "hey who let the monkey in here?!"
07-06-2012, 07:48 AM #163
07-06-2012, 11:36 AM #164
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- Aug 2007
- Romeo, MI
- 2002 Corvette Z06
I had to teach myself how to drive a standard transmission. And I never owned one until I bought my Camaro.
07-06-2012, 11:53 AM #165
I've driven just about every kind of domestic standard (or better put a shit ton lol) there is.
As a Mack mechanic I'd driven Split Eaton Fullers, all the way down to cars, pickups, motorcycles etc.
Learned to drive a manual in an old Chevy Citation X-11 @ the age of 7-8.
Last edited by Smittro; 07-06-2012 at 11:56 AM.
07-06-2012, 10:55 PM #166
And as far as GM's automatics... your personal opinion is just that, and most people and industry experts disagree. There's a reason that Ford, BMW, and other companies have at times (and currently) use GM designed transmissions in their vehicles. I dont disagree that the trans tuning GM puts into some of their vehicles is baffling at times, but it doesnt make it a bad trans. GM makes many excellent automatic tranmissions.
07-07-2012, 03:09 AM #167
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- Panama City Beach, Florida
- bunch of them
07-07-2012, 12:32 PM #168
Name them and give proof. Funny man..
You may be a "racer" but that don't mean a damn' thing to me..
For every "GOOD" GM trans you post I will show to the contrary..
I'll give you the ones that are in fact "good".
I like how you site my opinions, then back it up with more opinions..
You're funny maybe you should write this stuff down..
Many GM transmissions (autos) are junk FACT!!..
Why do you think they out source from Germany so much huh?
Last edited by Smittro; 07-07-2012 at 01:20 PM.
07-07-2012, 12:37 PM #169
07-07-2012, 12:40 PM #170
...and futher more there slick these "industry experts" you say, are these the same experts that have turned out thousands of recalled Gm cars and transmissions??
How many FWD cars have you owned, raced, or even driven??
Browser search... Use it!
Last edited by Smittro; 07-07-2012 at 01:15 PM.
07-07-2012, 01:29 PM #171
Hmm after a 2 second, half hearted search..
Other Reported Complaints
- The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has fielded repeated complaints on a number of GM transmission woes. These range from unpredictable four-wheel drive performance to "undersized transmissions" to fan failure during shifting. By researching your GM model vehicle in the NHTSA files, you may find an excellent resource for troubleshooting your potential transmission problem.
- There were considerable transmission problems with the Saturn Vues and Ions that were produced between the years 2002 and 2005. In fact, according to Motor Trend, the continuously variable transmissions installed in these vehicles were such continuous "failures" that GM discontinued the transmissions and settled a related class action suit.
I tossed in the Saturn one just to have an odd ball in there..
Quick! Call the "experts"! ask them how the class actions are going..
My posts stand as Accurately stated..
Last edited by Smittro; 07-07-2012 at 01:40 PM.
07-07-2012, 01:42 PM #172
Now with all that said..
I still strickly buy GM.. But I am not affraid to call a duck a duck either..
I don't care about what dodge or ford do..
07-07-2012, 07:10 PM #173
I just call it like I see it. As far as auto's and issues, that's been an issue for GM since the first 700 was introduced. The 4L60 and 4L65 are just spin offs of that trans with updates (to fix known problems ) They still aren't rated to hold alot of power or large towing capabilities.
The 4L80E is an excellent trans, based off the 400 turbo that has been the mainstay GM automatic muscle car trans since 1967 on up, also another excellent trans that has proven it's ability. GM knew it and stuck with alot of design features to develop the 4L80.
Now we have this new wave of 6 speed auto's coming out, and again they are showing growing pains as expected with limited power capabilities and the aftermarket is still trying to figure them out.
Auto's are okay, but as I said, they still sell to more family oriented type people. The manuals are still the mainstay in performance oriented vehicles. Look at your purpose built performance cars like the Z06 built since when?? 2001?? What trans have they always been built with? Just one example to show a manual still has a place, and it's still chosen frequently in alot of V8 rear wheel drive cars today.
Complaining about driving a manual in traffic is just lazyness in my opinion. But that's just one example of how I mention society getting soft. You wouldn't have heard that kind of talk 30 years ago.
Keep in mind, I'm not knocking auto's, they have a place too.
07-08-2012, 12:21 AM #174
07-08-2012, 12:22 AM #175
And I think this thread is about done.
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