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    Why are Stangs so much slower?

    Hey guys

    I wanna know: Why are the 96-03 Mustang GT's so much slower than the Camaro Z28!
    Whats with the Cobras? Are they as fasta as a Camaro SS?
    What is with the newest Stang?

    What's the reason? OK, the have 1.1Liter less than our LS1 or LT1 Camaros! But is that all?

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    Small displacement and not enough power. The Cobras will run with a stock SS maybe even edge them. The 05 GT's aren't shit.
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    Bit why are they powerless?? And they call them Muscle Cars!!

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    I wasn't aware they were all slow........considering the ONLY ls1's that I've raced that were close to me had extensive motor work and or needed N20
    Last edited by zinc03; 12-27-2005 at 09:28 PM.
    03 Cobra with a couple bolt ons and a solid axle

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    zinc: You are a Cobra Owner... thats diffrent i think. I talk first from the Mustang GT's since the new one comes out. There (STOCK) are slow everywhere i find stats about them. 6.8sec 0-60 is slow for a stock 2000 Mustang GT. A Camaro Z28 goes in 5.6 or 5.4 ... don't remember the correct stats now.
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    Not this battle again...

    Remember, Mustangs have never been called "muscle cars". They are Pony cars, not all out sports cars like Camaros or TA's. Ford's idea of muscle: Cobras and Saleens. Im a GM guy myself, but i'd like to see a stock SS hang with a stock 03-04 Cobra. But isnt it interesting that Ford bolted the stuper-charger on the stangs after GM stopped making the F body?
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    OK... Pony cars. But it was alltime "the fight" between Camaro & Stangs! =) But Saleens arn't fast engouh to bet a Camaro from the same year, i read. Only the Cobras can hang with F-Bodys, i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by H8machine
    zinc: You are a Cobra Owner... thats diffrent i think. I talk first from the Mustang GT's since the new one comes out. There (STOCK) are slow everywhere i find stats about them. 6.8sec 0-60 is slow for a stock 2000 Mustang GT. A Camaro Z28 goes in 5.6 or 5.4 ... don't remember the correct stats now.

    A cobra is still a Mustang. To me all F-bodies are slow till you dump a ton of mods into them

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedZ28
    Not this battle again...

    Remember, Mustangs have never been called "muscle cars". They are Pony cars, not all out sports cars like Camaros or TA's. Ford's idea of muscle: Cobras and Saleens. Im a GM guy myself, but i'd like to see a stock SS hang with a stock 03-04 Cobra. But isnt it interesting that Ford bolted the stuper-charger on the stangs after GM stopped making the F body?
    Camaros and TA's are also pony cars. The Corvette is considered a "sports" car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinc03
    Camaros and TA's are also pony cars. The Corvette is considered a "sports" car.
    Go ask an insurance company, there is a reason insurance on a Z is the exact same as on a 'vette

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    Oh... a starting war?? ^^

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    its not that they are powerless they have smaller motors look at the 2 of them next to each other (GT -VS- Z28) theres a difference but its not extreme. then if you start comparing highest model car against highest model car you have a close race

    2000 Mustang GT models Its 4.6-liter sohc modular V8 engine produces 260 horsepower at 5000 rpm with 302 foot-pounds of torque at 4000 rpm. according to
    http://www.internetautoguide.com/rev.../mustang/2000/

    2000 Z28 LS1 350 produces 305hp @ 5200RPM and 335 foot-pounds of torque @ 4000RPM according to
    http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...mid=-1&src=vip

    the camaro has more HP & TQ a 45 HP difference and 33ft-lb of torque difference but theres still more than a 50 cubic inch difference

    The '99 Cobra engine is rated at 320 horsepower according to
    http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...ff_slithering/

    WS6 trans am (99) has a 320-horsepower, 5.7-liter LS1 V8. according to
    http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/compa...3/page005.html

    i see a damn close race there with equal drivers

    02 Cobra produces 390 horsepower according to
    http://www.internetautoguide.com/rev.../mustang/2002/

    '03-'04 Cobra 4.6 is rated at 390 hp according to
    http://mustang50magazine.com/thehist...1_mustangs_40/

    these cars run close to 500 reliable hp with a tune, exhaust and pulley try that with a few very basic bolt on's on an LS1

    05 mustang GT 281ci V-8 produces 300 hp according to
    http://mustangmonthly.com/featuredve..._0512_steedas/

    BIG D's SS said "The 05 GT's aren't shit." 300hp isnt shit ?? the fastest production LS1 350made 350hp the 05 Mustang is a 281 making 300hp so a mustang makes more HP per cubic inch than the fastest production LS1

    06 Shelby will be good for 450hp according to
    http://www.carbuyersnotebook.com/arc...ess_shelby.htm

    the LS1 was in F-body vehicles from 98-02 the lowest HP an LS1 in stock form made was 305hp the highest HP an LS1 made was 350 according to
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LS1_engine#LS1

    If the fastest production LS1 made 350 HP and I would *Assume* it was in the 02 model year being it was the last year for the LS1 F-body i would also *assume* it was probably in the higher end car (SS) and an 02 Cobra made 390HP, it looks to me that the cobra would have been the faster car

    I'm not sure where some people get these ideas from but a top of the line Mustang verses a top of the line Camaro are not that far off.
    dont take it the wrong way I'm not bashing f-body's or mustangs the way i see it is id rather be driving a ford than a honda
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    there was no 02 cobra...

    dont forget the cobra r man... you wanna bring those in... they are $70k mustangs... but by god still a mustang...

    can gmmg cars be pulled in as ls1 factory cars... if not i dont see how an ss can be...

    dont forget black birds

    stage 2 baby.... droooooooool
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    Cool message with facts! Very good! But as i said: Cobras seems to match with F-Bodys but Mustang GT's are slower than an equal Camaro Z28.

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    if you want to compare... compare price...

    i dont know what they were new... if a cobra was $35k... compare it to a $35k fbody... and so on..

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    black bird ??? WTF is that

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    BAN HIM!!!!! ED WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!

    carl black pontiac black bird (atlanta area)... 380 hp (stage 1)... the stripes up the side of the ram air hood... built by GMMG (same ppl that did the intimidator ss)... interior touches torque thrust d's... although i think there were only 50 a year from 00 to 02 (im pretty sure about this)

    oh and i think there are only 7 or 8 stage 2's (500hp i think) out there...
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    [QUOTE=zinc03]A cobra is still a Mustang. To me all F-bodies are slow till you dump a ton of mods into them [/QUOTEA
    A ls1 vs a mustang gt is apples to apples A cobra at twice the money it should beat a ls1. THIS IS A LS1 FOURM! I am sure some one here has a ls1 that will kick your but. And high 12s to mid 13s stock you call slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinc03
    Camaros and TA's are also pony cars. The Corvette is considered a "sports" car.
    Take it easy, im on your side!

    Its all about money...if you have it, you can make anything fast. How much are 03-04 Cobras again? How much are 01-02 Z28/SS/WS6/TA's again? I should hope the $32,000 Cobra would outrun a $23,000 SS.

    once again, if you got the money, it will go fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedZ28
    Take it easy, im on your side!

    Its all about money...if you have it, you can make anything fast. How much are 03-04 Cobras again? How much are 01-02 Z28/SS/WS6/TA's again? I should hope the $32,000 Cobra would outrun a $23,000 SS.

    once again, if you got the money, it will go fast.

    03-04 Cobras were about $34K new, an 02 SS was about $32K brand new. Your comparing new vs used

    I paid $23.5K for my 03

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