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This is a discussion on 2011 mustang 5.0 at the track within the Domestics and Foreigns forums, part of the Vehicle Specific category; Originally Posted by Johns00Z28 It's hard to believe they can't get a 2010 SS in the 9s with the stock ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns00Z28 View Post
    It's hard to believe they can't get a 2010 SS in the 9s with the stock bottom end.
    because 9s are absurdly hard to get into...especially for a heavier car with IRS

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    because 9s are absurdly hard to get into...especially for a heavier car with IRS
    I'm not saying it's easy but w/ weight reduction and a big shot of N20 or forced induction should do it. And I know LS3's can put down some big numbers....saw a cam only guy on tech make 500rwhp.

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    Is strange or moser making SRA replacements for the 2010 SS's yet? If not I'd imagine that'd be a worthwhile swap for the drag racing crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns00Z28 View Post
    I'm not saying it's easy but w/ weight reduction and a big shot of N20 or forced induction should do it. And I know LS3's can put down some big numbers....saw a cam only guy on tech make 500rwhp.
    I've seen a FI '10 Camaro making 560-ish to the wheels and the thing couldn't get out of it's own way.

    Jus' sayin' - even at 560 to the wheels that thing ain't in the 9's, by any stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FasstChevys View Post
    I've seen a FI '10 Camaro making 560-ish to the wheels and the thing couldn't get out of it's own way.

    Jus' sayin' - even at 560 to the wheels that thing ain't in the 9's, by any stretch.
    Why not? With 560whp and the drivetrain/ suspension to back them with weight reduction 9s shouldnt be out of the question at all. 4000lbs cars with 560whp and the right drivetrain/suspension can get low to mid 10s. It doesnt take that much power to hit 9s, there is a local guy with a camaro stripped to 2800lbs without the driver, hit a 9.8 @ 135ishmph with only 470whp, its a N/A top end swapped ls1, stock bottom end. Becasue he has that car setup to hook hard and the drivetrain to handle it, 4xxx stall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FasstChevys View Post
    I've seen a FI '10 Camaro making 560-ish to the wheels and the thing couldn't get out of it's own way.

    Jus' sayin' - even at 560 to the wheels that thing ain't in the 9's, by any stretch.
    But you have to consider what if any weight reduction it had. That's why I said w/ weight reduction and forced induction or nitrous. That 500rwhp cam only car w/ a 150 shot of N20 should be damn near 9s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zinergy View Post
    Why not? With 560whp and the drivetrain/ suspension to back them with weight reduction 9s shouldnt be out of the question at all. 4000lbs cars with 560whp and the right drivetrain/suspension can get low to mid 10s. .
    It's not as easy as it sounds, but it's probably not a far stretch to do what you are saying.
    My chevelle made 638 flywheel hp on a DTS dyno without any accessories and it weighs 4,108 lbs with me in it. With a small 275 drag radial and through the mufflers it went 11.40 at 118 mph.
    Never had it on a chassis dyno but I'm sure it's no dyno queen in that department pushing through a 400 turbo, 3600 stall and a 12 bolt. Not to mention turning a power steering pump, water pump etc...
    If I'm lucky I might see 500rwhp, but that's not really a concern for me. The overall setup is what makes the car run the way it does.

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    I strolled through some 2011 threads on the stang boards and they have put up some good numbers. Stock they're making 370s and with just a tune around 400rwhp. There are a high 10 bolt on car, high 10 with a 100 shot, and of coarse the 9 second one with a 275 shot.

    I'm just curious how many passes it will be able to make before it blows. Also, ford is coming out with a roots blower as well as the other manufacturers in the very near future. They're claiming around 550rwhp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shady milkman View Post
    such as ?
    I don't remember his name any more. He busted tires. I didn't say anybody here, if you thought that.

    But back to the topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2 KLR View Post
    I strolled through some 2011 threads on the stang boards and they have put up some good numbers. Stock they're making 370s and with just a tune around 400rwhp. There are a high 10 bolt on car, high 10 with a 100 shot, and of coarse the 9 second one with a 275 shot.

    I'm just curious how many passes it will be able to make before it blows. Also, ford is coming out with a roots blower as well as the other manufacturers in the very near future. They're claiming around 550rwhp.
    A 275 shot is a pretty hefty dose if all at once. A progressive controller would be the way to go, much easier on the engine and easier to hook on a small tire.
    If done that way and a safe tune, the car could last a long time.

    If they are throwing it in there all at once on stock internals I'd have my fingers crossed. It will be interesting to keep an eye on for sure. I'm liking what ford has done. A relatively quick naturally aspirated car with a solid axle is the kind of car I'd want to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2 KLR View Post
    I'm just curious how many passes it will be able to make before it blows. Also, ford is coming out with a roots blower as well as the other manufacturers in the very near future. They're claiming around 550rwhp.
    I think it will take a lot to blow the new 5.0. It comes stock with forged rods, forged crank, and a deep sump pan. The only weak link is the pistons, which are hypereutectic.

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    I forget, does it have oil jets for the bottom of the piston? It seems like the engine was ready incase they wanted to go with boost, without actually using boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaviDyn View Post
    I forget, does it have oil jets for the bottom of the piston? It seems like the engine was read incase they wanted to go with boost, without actually using boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faught View Post
    fine ford wats to upgrade so can I http://www.lingenfelter.com/engine-p...7-cid-ls1-70-l
    That a boy I like your style You >< New 5.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackSS01 View Post
    That a boy I like your style You >< New 5.0

    If you get that motor
    You could almost get a new mustang GT for that price! lol

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    but who looks better and can go faster hmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns00Z28 View Post
    You could almost get a new mustang GT for that price! lol
    Not a chance your picking up a 5.0 New GT for $20,000 dollars

    But I get what your saying, thats an expensive motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackSS01 View Post
    Not a chance your picking up a 5.0 New GT for $20,000 dollars

    But I get what your saying, thats an expensive motor.
    Well my dad just picked up an '11 GT last week for $29k. But yeah $20k for 530hp? lol

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