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    That is an old school 10 bolt - so it is far superior to the 10 bolts our F-bodies came equipped with. Should be fine so long as you avoid sticky tires and track style launches.

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    Well, it will be a street car, maybe a little rubber now and then, but ya gotta be careful in Cali, the take your car away and crush it if you get caught racing! Good news about the rear end, thanks Jeff!
    This project is already taking too long. No one responded to my ad for the S-10 yet; it's already been 24 hours!!!!

    It is nice to know that I don't have to rebuild the whole car, just most of it. I did not ride in the car before but the 2 girls that crashed in to the wall at the gas station w/o any brakes, they did not remember any noise in the back! I think there is some a-arm repair/ replacement I have to do as well as bumper straighten and maybe a right side fender, but I think these older cars were made with better/ thicker steel so I might be able to fix the fender, I don't know yet.

    Time to buy them there body tools! My weakest link! (of which I have many more!) Wish me luck!
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    Good luck and keep us updated

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    Use Chevy mounts and LS plates, it'll go in well. Will need an electric fan, I think Keep us posted, please.

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    Thanks Wagonmaster! I was just thinking about that part of it and was hoping that SOMEONE had tried this before. So I will get those and see what fits! You were thinking the standard Chevy 3 bolt mounts with the one through bolt like my old 1968 Camaro with a big block? If I remember correctly, they used to pull apart and we used to run chain from the a-arm mount to the cylinder head with those twist to tighten double thread nut's to keep the engine down. WOW! I think I am showing my AGE!~

    Does anyone have any idea's on the exhaust system? I was thinking that the 98-2002 Camaro exhaust might fit..... any opinions?? Maybe some Short or mid length would clear the front a-arms? The engine bay does look wider than the S-10 this was originally going in. Also found

    Oh yeah, I still have to clear this with my better half to bring the car to the house, (it's at my shop, Quicksilver Cycles). I am considering closing the motorcycle shop- my back is getting older than my heart wants to admit and am getting more limited a the days go by so I got to get the race bike running and sold to help finance this Buick I think I will retire with. Some looking on the sponsor pages here is in order soon, but anyone have any opinions on to stay w/ DBW or cable pedal, and if I go with cable, would it be more feasible to go with carb/ manifold verses the FI setup?

    Thanks for looking and the answers keep giving more incentive!
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    Most likely, you will simply need to have a competent exhaust shop fab you a system. Any pics of the progress?

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    Sorry Jeff, I am still trying to figure out how to get my wife to go along with this! I have so many motorcycles, (7) and only 2 are street legal, while the other 5 are; 1) Top Gas, or 8.20 Kawasaki 1500 w/ a car tire, a "Pro Street" GSXR1100/ 1245c.c with a turboolympuspics-006.jpg, a S/C Kawasaki Nitrous 1395, a GS1100/ 1425 Turbo Street bike(?), and the big bike, the "Pro Mod" 1642 c.c Carb Nitrous 75" wheelbase 11" car tire monster!olympuspics-039.jpg
    I will probably try and get some of the toys all put back together and sell them to make the wife happy, and then she will probably be cool with another TOY! Then I can bring the car home and start on it. YES!!!!
    The block will be the first to go out, as I will get the bore done to the .005" over w/ matching pistons, then the cam that will work with a 4L60E or a 4L80E, (if I can get the 80 for a good price), maybe and ls6 cam? Need floating rods to stay away from the piston slapping issue, I got ARP head set and rod bolts, gaskets next month, and still in the air about the carb or FI decision. Any input on if the cam will/ will not work, or should I go to a manual trans?

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    Well, I got the honey to say yes to the Buick! I just got a hold of a company here in Cali called CBM, or Custom Built Motors in Rancho Cucamonga, anyone heard of them? They advertize on EBay; I guess they are LS engine specialists and they seem to know a lot about my LQ4. I was going to see what they charge for a V/J on the heads, hot tank, install cam bearings, and hone the block, install the ARP rod bolts, redo the big end of the rod and put the rods on the new flat top Sealed Power pistons. I was also going to have them see about doing the ECU upgrade as they have the goodies for it, as well as a dyno with an air fuel gauge while it is under a load.

    Also, a question for the wagonmater, are there any 3 bolt motor mounts that will not tear apart as the old ones used to? I would rather try and get some "better" mounts on there than the old style ones? Anyone with any idea's??

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    Just get a good set of polyurethane mounts and you should be fine.

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    Hy Jeff, thanks for the info; I will try that. I also just found out they, CBM, cannot do the machine work as they farm out there work to another shop. They were kind enough to give me their contact info and said feel free to talk to them about all of it.

    Next, can I convert the "pressed pin" rods to full floaters and just get the Sealed Power Hypereutectic Pistons; The wrist pin size shows .943" and the pressed pin size is .0945 I think. Piston part # is ZH1129CT.

    Also, can you reflash the factory GMC Sierra 2500HD for a weirdo application like mine? Or o I need another ECU? BTW, thanks for the help you guys; I sometimes feel I am thinking with my head stuck in mud! It will not respond!
    Raymond.

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    Hey, I just found out the car is a "Y" body car, and it is supposed to be of unibody construction! How do I tell them is it a full chassis car and how do you parts like a posi unit, tube front A-arm kits and shocks?

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    Well, It looks like it is almost time to get the S-10 to the trans shop to correct a P1850 trouble code. When that gets out of here, the Buick is getting some roll around tires and get the car home. One of the wheels on the right front incurred some dramatic bending when it hit the wall. Time to get the hammer and body tools out as those wheels are the fancy ones in the picture. Oh yeah, I found all stock hub caps and about 5 bottles of brake fluid in the trunk; I guess the car has had the brake issue for a while.

    I did a little measuring and the engine compartment looks pretty generous, so it will fit the truck accessories and the E-Fans that are available all over the internet. Nice to see the depth will not be an issue. I also think the 1998/ 99 welded factory LS1 exhaust manifolds will fit as well. Most of the steering controls seem to be out of the way, but the brake lines going over the back of the cross member might be an issue, as is the master cylinder, which is lower than the one on my S-10. The height of the alternator might be an issue with the shorter hood height. When I get ready to bring it home, I will get some more pictures.

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    Christ.... what is it with the lowlife,eh??

    You get a really interesting thread like this picking up pace and then.....

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    Us moderators try to catch those trolls as quickly as we see them, most before they post, but it's difficult.

    Nice project, OP. Keep up with the progress pics as progress pursues.

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    Is it possible that he was just offering to fix my truck???? Nah! I think he was looking for an interpreter!

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    Okay, I ran in to another road block, or maybe it really isn't. I got a really good deal on a 6L80E transmission, less than what a good used 4L60 or 4L80E would cost and now I find the engine requires a different crank and ECU has to be an E38 or something?

    Is this true? HELP!
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    Not a clue on the 6L80E... sorry.

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    Well, I got a really GREAT reply from Steve at Tuned by Frost;

    At any rate, part of what you are you looking to do could seriously complicate things for you. In order to run the 6l80, you will have to also utilize the engine controller of the same donor. At that point though, the likely scenario will be that that later model engine controller is going to expect and need a 52x reluctor crank but that 03 engine has a 24x reluctor crank. They actually make a converter box, but it converts the opposite of the way that you are looking.

    So now I am trying to figure out if I can change the 24x to a 52x myself? What do I need to do and what controller can I order to fill the need if I try to use this trans?

    Thanks for looking and any advise you guys might be able to throw my way!
    Raymond.

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    The reluctor is attached to the crankshaft. No simple swap, unless there is a stand alone controller that can be utilized just for the transmission, or you use an aftermarket controller to run the whole shebang. They make a converter box that will convert a 58X signal to work with a 24X PCM, but as Steve told you, not the other way around. And you are right -- Steve is great to deal with.

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    That really bites the big tadpole! They have controllers that only work one way; the wrong way for me.
    Well, the 6l80 is now out of the picture..... boy I keep spending $$ in all the wrong places; funny, I used to do that on, oh wait, lets not get too far in to that!
    I think I have a guy that wants one of the built turbo Kawasaki engines I put together and he is going to trade a 4L80E w/ converter, drive shaft, and all the wiring to and from it to the ECU with the TCM, (throttle control module), which I am missing still. Hope he comes through!
    Meanwhile I got to get the Buick home and start with a new battery and flush all the fluids first. The new stock brakes and wheel and master cylinders have to get put in, then some tires to just get the beast around; (one wheel is bent, but it is steel, so out comes the body tools! Then I will get it running and drive it for a couple of months till I get the engine and trans all set up. I feel a whole lot better now that I have all you guys and Steve at Tuned by Frost for advice and help with idea's and his programming to get the little hot rod toy going! Pictures very soon!

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