Classic Muscle

[402 Guru]

So you have some Classic Muscle what is it ?
what have you done to it?
how long have you had it ?

[1fastcamarosss11]

i wouldn't call it a classic yet but i have an 87 monte ss aerocoupe. 1 of 6058. i plan on doing an ls1 swap come spring.

[402 Guru]

i wouldn't call it a classic yet but i have an 87 monte ss aerocoupe. 1 of 6058. i plan on doing an ls1 swap come spring.

Its considered a classic 20 years + is in the category = that is a nice SS i like it better than the now crappy old man monte carlo ss that 87 has bold styling like a womans contour lines heres a a 88 SS ls1/t56 swap http://www.montecarloss.com/ls1montecarloss/ . I followed a few months back should help you wih your build this spring

[402 Guru]

Heres the full rundown of the cost he did it for
Valve Train






Camshaft kit
MTI B1
(221/221 .558/.558 114) w/pushrods & springs
$599.00


Shipping

Shipping cost for camshaft kit
$23.00


Gasket
GM 12559271
Water pump gasket (quantity - 2)
$6.68


Gasket
GM 12558013
Timing chain (front cover) gasket
$7.56

Valve Train Sub Total



$636.24







Induction






Intake Manifold
GM 88894339
ZO6 LS6 intake manifold
$375.00


Gasket
GM 12533587
Intake manifold gasket set
$30.00


Throttle Body
Shaner S2
Custom ported Throttle Body
$139.00


Shipping

Shipping cost for Throttle Body
$20.00


Gasket
GM 12552542
Throttle Body gasket
$11.89


MAF
GM 25318411
85mm Mass Air Flow sensor w/built-in IAT
$87.00


Wire Adapter
PAC5889
Jim Pace 3 wire to 5 wire MAF harness adapter
$38.95


Regulator
BPP100-207
Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator w/shipping
$113.99


Fuel Injectors
M9593B302
30# SVO fuel injectors
$227.90


Cylinder Heads
MTI Stage II
Fully ported LS1 stage II heads w/2.055”/1.60” valves
$2000.00


Shipping

Shipping cost for cylinder heads
$50.00


Gasket
GM 12498543
Cylinder head gasket set
$34.15


Bolts
GM 12498545
Replacement cylinder head bolt set
$33.76


Shipping

Shipping cost for gasket/bolt set
$11.78

Induction Sub Total



$3,173.42







Crank Pulley/belt drive






Crank Pulley
ASP948500
25% Reduction crank pulley
$164.99


Drive belt
KO60760
30mm shorter drive belt
$25.00


Bolt
GM 12557840
New crank pulley bolt
$3.04


Gasket
GM 12561244
Timing chain (front cover) crankshaft seal
$12.56


Pulley

Tensioner Pulley
$58.00

Crank/belt Sub Total



$263.59







Exhaust Headers






Header Flanges
GM 12480130
LS1 exhaust flanges (quantity – 2)
$34.00


Misc. Bends
MB187
Schoenfeld misc. 1-7/8” 18 gauge pipe bends
$89.95


Misc. Bends
017516U
Schoenfeld 180° 1-3/4” 16 gauge u-bends
$42.00


Shipping

Shipping cost for 18 & 16 GA pipe bends
$35.21


Misc. Bends

1-3/4” 180° 16 gauge u-bend
$14.69


Merge Collector
C-PM178
S&S Headers Inc. 2-3/4” to 3-1/2” merge collectors (2)
$148.49


Flanges

Custom made collector/exhaust flanges (quantity - 2)
$19.04


O2 Sensor Bung
HLY-534-49
Holley O2 weld-in bungs (quantity - 4)
$21.65


Reducer

Dr. Gas 3-1/2” to 2-3/4” reducer (quantity - 2)
$35.26


Welding

Welding supplies (TIG rental, gas, welding rod)
$201.28


Welding Labor

Approximately 10 hours welding (66 full circle welds)
$200.00


Coating

Jet-Hot 2000 Ceramic coating
$234.80

Exhaust Headers Sub Tot



$1,076.37







Exhaust System






Misc. Bends

3” & 3-1/2” 90° bends
$198.66


Reducers

3-1/2” OD to 3” ID reducers (quantity - 4)
$52.00


Junction

3-1/2” to 3” Dr. Gas “X” pipe
$154.34


Gaskets
MRG1209
Mr. Gasket 4 bolt header flange gaskets
$12.97


Misc. Pipe

3” & 3-1/2” pipe sections
$87.65


Flanges

Custom made 4 bolt flanges (quantity - 8)
$76.16


Mufflers
17792
DynoMax Super Turbo (quantity - 2)
$124.00


Converters
93009
Carsound 3” diameter Catalytic Converters
$202.00


Tailpipes

Torque Tech 3” diameter GM G-body GN exit tailpipes
$207.84


Coating

Performance Coatings ceramic coating of head pipe
$105.26


Misc. bolts/nuts

Misc. 10mm bolts and flange nuts (quantity 16 ea.)
$16.13


Plug

18mm x 1.5 bolt for O2 plug
$3.13


O2 Sensor Bung
HLY-534-49
Holley O2 weld-in bungs (quantity - 2)
$10.83

Exhaust System Sub Total



$1,250.97







Transmission






Shifter
PRO 5.0
Shifter for T56 w/shipping
$169.00







Software






Diagnostic
AT1
B&B AUTOTAP diagnostic software
$260.98


Programming

LS1_Edit PCM software (Share price w/3 licenses)
$275.00

Software Sub Total



$535.98

Phase II Mod Total



$7,105.57

Phase I Installation Total



$9,023.16

Total Project PI & PII



$16,128.73

[1fastcamarosss11]

that's john b's old right he now has a 427 ls7 in his. i like that write up. i am still thinking of going carbed to save a lot of time and money.

[justinmc978]

had a 71 plymouth duster for a few days

[Goat-E]

I had a 70 firebird with a powerglide but I ditched that and got a 73 LeMans Sport with a 400 and I loved that car! It was black and looked mean. Don't ask me for specifics (this was WAY back in 1983) but I remember I put a 540 (I believe) lift Crane Cam in it with a Performer dual plane mid-rise manifold and a Holly 750cfm carb with mechanical secondaries. Black Jack long tubes and a B&M trans pack/shift kit. I was in auto tech school engine rebuilding class and was making good money for being 17 years old ($250 a week LOL!) Me and my classmates did all of the work under the supervision of my instructor from the crankshaft out. Balanced the rods and pistons, shaved the heads ect. That thing was a torque monster! And big as a battleship . . . I sold it when I went on the Aircraft Carrier after graduation.

[402 Guru]

had a 71 plymouth duster for a few days
a few days what happened a bank hold up ? stock suspension give up on you on a twisty road or was it the infamous thrown rod ?

that's john b's old right he now has a 427 ls7 in his. i like that write up. i am still thinking of going carbed to save a lot of time and money.

really whats his sn on here ?I would go for the carbed to.tune it yourself are u goin with the t56 or the auto ?

I had a 70 firebird with a powerglide but I ditched that and got a 73 LeMans Sport with a 400 and I loved that car! It was black and looked mean. Don't ask me for specifics (this was WAY back in 1983) but I remember I put a 540 (I believe) lift Crane Cam in it with a Performer dual plane mid-rise manifold and a Holly 750cfm carb with mechanical secondaries. Black Jack long tubes and a B&M trans pack/shift kit. I was in auto tech school engine rebuilding class and was making good money for being 17 years old ($250 a week LOL!) Me and my classmates did all of the work under the supervision of my instructor from the crankshaft out. Balanced the rods and pistons, shaved the heads ect. That thing was a torque monster! And big as a battleship . . . I sold it when I went on the Aircraft Carrier after graduation.

Classic muscle is the only way to go i bet you watch out for carving the canyons on stock suspension haha.
Those Lemans are awesome machines of power, torque and the will to keep on going after beating the snot out of them. How long did you have it ?

[DIRTY JERZY]

My dads got a 66 gto that he has had since the 70's

I had a supercharged 89 formula it was a super fun car but not clasic

oh and I just got my grandmothers 82 sky lark

[Goat-E]

Classic muscle is the only way to go i bet you watch out for carving the canyons on stock suspension haha.
Those Lemans are awesome machines of power, torque and the will to keep on going after beating the snot out of them. How long did you have it ?

I only had it for 2 years. I went into the Navy after highschool and sold it to a buddy of mine cuz it made no sense to me to carry insurance on a car that was gonna sit while I was out of the country for 6+ months at a time. Insurance is big $$$ when you are that young and on military wages.
I live in South Florida, the closest thing we have to a canyon road is a highway off ramp LOL! When I was in Pennsylvania I had an IROC Daytona but the roads there are terrible and the suspension took a real beating. Thank god my dad owned the Dodge dealership, it really saved my ass on repairs. I tore up all kinds of control arms and I cracked 2 rims on pot-holes.
I love the 04' GTO that I have now. I put a Harrop sport differential mount and a full Pedders bushing kit in it about a month ago and this thing grips like a SOB now. If only I could find a twisty back country road to actually take a turn on! I might drive it up up to Lewisville North Carolina some day and visit my buddy, they've got plenty of twistys up there.

[tep98ws6]

I have a '72 Camaro SS that I had originally put in a 383 Stroker with forged internals and nitrous (hate that crap)
now that I'm selling it, it has a brand new 350 in it.

Nothin super exciting, but it's a neat looking car

[1fastcamarosss11]

really whats his sn on here ?I would go for the carbed to.tune it yourself are u goin with the t56 or the auto ?


Classic muscle is the only way to go i bet you watch out for carving the canyons on stock suspension haha.
Those Lemans are awesome machines of power, torque and the will to keep on going after beating the snot out of them. How long did you have it ?

he on tech and ls1.com under john b i'm pretty sure. type ls7 monte carlo ss i'm sure it will come up.

auto with a stall.

[402 Guru]

I only had it for 2 years. I went into the Navy after highschool and sold it to a buddy of mine cuz it made no sense to me to carry insurance on a car that was gonna sit while I was out of the country for 6+ months at a time. Insurance is big $$$ when you are that young and on military wages.
I live in South Florida, the closest thing we have to a canyon road is a highway off ramp LOL! When I was in Pennsylvania I had an IROC Daytona but the roads there are terrible and the suspension took a real beating. Thank god my dad owned the Dodge dealership, it really saved my ass on repairs. I tore up all kinds of control arms and I cracked 2 rims on pot-holes.
I love the 04' GTO that I have now. I put a Harrop sport differential mount and a full Pedders bushing kit in it about a month ago and this thing grips like a SOB now. If only I could find a twisty back country road to actually take a turn on! I might drive it up up to Lewisville North Carolina some day and visit my buddy, they've got plenty of twistys up there.

yes thats understandable im inlisted in the airforce and have alought of free time on my hands so recently i have not been able to drive my car and it sucks but i know when i get home i get to drive the hell out of my car till the wheels fall off after all the work i put into it i figure theres no way in hell i'll ever sell mine . If you want( for a x-mas gift to yourself theres sales everywhere) to take some corners off the freeway rams like Powersliding or faint drifting then get a bigger sway bar when u go cross country and you will thank yourself that u added it

I have a '72 Camaro SS that I had originally put in a 383 Stroker with forged internals and nitrous (hate that crap)
now that I'm selling it, it has a brand new 350 in it.

Nothin super exciting, but it's a neat looking car

Yeah i dislike nitrous with a passion( my wife likes to use it though) after my drag racing days i buit a 9.5 nitrous ls1 then rebuilt the sob after 15 runs because i kept trying to break records but my bank got broken instead lol the 72 ss is a Sick example of american muscle

he on tech and ls1.com under john b i'm pretty sure. type ls7 monte carlo ss i'm sure it will come up.

auto with a stall.

Sounds sick i don't preferably like ls1.com they think that they are invincible where people on here are friendly when they are just like everyone else thats why i think this site Rocks and are Moderators rock i'll check that build out it looks interesting what kind of a stall did he go with ?

[camaroz98]

its not muscle but i have a 1921 model t truck havnt seen one like it fully restored inline 4 max of 17mph wooot had it for 10 years...

oh yeah cant for get i got a 69 camaro ss with a 383 stroker still in work tho for the last 18 years lol

[pajeff02]

Until the Trans Am, our fun cars were all old school: '74 Corvette L-82, '70 Cutlass W-31, '67 Cutlass with a 330, and three '66 Buicks which will be combined to build one Wildcat convertible motivated by a 401 Nailhead, with a 340 as a backup motor.

[402 Guru]

Until the Trans Am, our fun cars were all old school: '74 Corvette L-82, '70 Cutlass W-31, '67 Cutlass with a 330, and three '66 Buicks which will be combined to build one Wildcat convertible motivated by a 401 Nailhead, with a 340 as a backup motor.

cool man got pics ? the 402 nailhead's were one of a kind engines that i will never forget the sound of a camed 401 hearing every cylinder hit at the same time quite amazing indeed how long did it take to finish sir ?

its not muscle but i have a 1921 model t truck havnt seen one like it fully restored inline 4 max of 17mph wooot had it for 10 years...

oh yeah cant for get i got a 69 camaro ss with a 383 stroker still in work tho for the last 18 years lol

Thats sick a model T truck do u take it to the parades downtown in vegas that they have every year on st. patricks day or something . u shoulds post up some pics of the 69 SS what all have u done to it? what needs to be done to it ?

[camaroz98]

no not in vegas i enter it in shows back in wisconsin tho and all the ss needs is interior and a new trans cuz my mom blew it up this summer not to much done with it tho started as a restore and got a great deal on a 383 stroker from a friend holly carb aluminum race heads edlebrock intake hooker headers with flowmaster cans 9in rear and 373 gears just put on the back bunner till i get outa the military and back to wisconsin but ill see if i can get sum pics

[pajeff02]

cool man got pics ? the 402 nailhead's were one of a kind engines that i will never forget the sound of a camed 401 hearing every cylinder hit at the same time quite amazing indeed how long did it take to finish sir ?

This is the original Wildcat: http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117428 I have the entire chassis, engine and driveline completed setting next to it. The restoration originally started out with a '66 LeSabre convertible -- hence the 340 engine. In searching for impossible to find parts, a gentleman in Virginia sold me a 4 door LeSabre and the Wildcat. In the interim, I had started the restoration on the Corvette, which is completed, and the W-31, which the chassis is completed.

[twozs]

73 R/S Z 28 completly stock

[402 Guru]

This is the original Wildcat: http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117428 I have the entire chassis, engine and driveline completed setting next to it. The restoration originally started out with a '66 LeSabre convertible -- hence the 340 engine. In searching for impossible to find parts, a gentleman in Virginia sold me a 4 door LeSabre and the Wildcat. In the interim, I had started the restoration on the Corvette, which is completed, and the W-31, which the chassis is completed.

that is sick man can u take some pictures? frame off restorations are the real car builders Dream with all the blood,sweat and tears that go into it they make your lifetime feel like you have accomplished your life goals Congratulations man !

73 R/S Z 28 completly stock

that is a nice looking 2nd get i like the colors is that a vinal top or 2 tone cant tell . good quality pictures' of the z's