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    Classic Muscle

    So you have some Classic Muscle what is it ?
    what have you done to it?
    how long have you had it ?

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    trans am 00 ws6
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    i wouldn't call it a classic yet but i have an 87 monte ss aerocoupe. 1 of 6058. i plan on doing an ls1 swap come spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1fastcamarosss11 View Post
    i wouldn't call it a classic yet but i have an 87 monte ss aerocoupe. 1 of 6058. i plan on doing an ls1 swap come spring.
    Its considered a classic 20 years + is in the category = that is a nice SS i like it better than the now crappy old man monte carlo ss that 87 has bold styling like a womans contour lines heres a a 88 SS ls1/t56 swap http://www.montecarloss.com/ls1montecarloss/ . I followed a few months back should help you wih your build this spring

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    Heres the full rundown of the cost he did it for
    Valve Train






    Camshaft kit
    MTI B1
    (221/221 .558/.558 114) w/pushrods & springs
    $599.00


    Shipping

    Shipping cost for camshaft kit
    $23.00


    Gasket
    GM 12559271
    Water pump gasket (quantity - 2)
    $6.68


    Gasket
    GM 12558013
    Timing chain (front cover) gasket
    $7.56

    Valve Train Sub Total



    $636.24







    Induction






    Intake Manifold
    GM 88894339
    ZO6 LS6 intake manifold
    $375.00


    Gasket
    GM 12533587
    Intake manifold gasket set
    $30.00


    Throttle Body
    Shaner S2
    Custom ported Throttle Body
    $139.00


    Shipping

    Shipping cost for Throttle Body
    $20.00


    Gasket
    GM 12552542
    Throttle Body gasket
    $11.89


    MAF
    GM 25318411
    85mm Mass Air Flow sensor w/built-in IAT
    $87.00


    Wire Adapter
    PAC5889
    Jim Pace 3 wire to 5 wire MAF harness adapter
    $38.95


    Regulator
    BPP100-207
    Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator w/shipping
    $113.99


    Fuel Injectors
    M9593B302
    30# SVO fuel injectors
    $227.90


    Cylinder Heads
    MTI Stage II
    Fully ported LS1 stage II heads w/2.055/1.60 valves
    $2000.00


    Shipping

    Shipping cost for cylinder heads
    $50.00


    Gasket
    GM 12498543
    Cylinder head gasket set
    $34.15


    Bolts
    GM 12498545
    Replacement cylinder head bolt set
    $33.76


    Shipping

    Shipping cost for gasket/bolt set
    $11.78

    Induction Sub Total



    $3,173.42







    Crank Pulley/belt drive






    Crank Pulley
    ASP948500
    25% Reduction crank pulley
    $164.99


    Drive belt
    KO60760
    30mm shorter drive belt
    $25.00


    Bolt
    GM 12557840
    New crank pulley bolt
    $3.04


    Gasket
    GM 12561244
    Timing chain (front cover) crankshaft seal
    $12.56


    Pulley

    Tensioner Pulley
    $58.00

    Crank/belt Sub Total



    $263.59







    Exhaust Headers






    Header Flanges
    GM 12480130
    LS1 exhaust flanges (quantity 2)
    $34.00


    Misc. Bends
    MB187
    Schoenfeld misc. 1-7/8 18 gauge pipe bends
    $89.95


    Misc. Bends
    017516U
    Schoenfeld 180 1-3/4 16 gauge u-bends
    $42.00


    Shipping

    Shipping cost for 18 & 16 GA pipe bends
    $35.21


    Misc. Bends

    1-3/4 180 16 gauge u-bend
    $14.69


    Merge Collector
    C-PM178
    S&S Headers Inc. 2-3/4 to 3-1/2 merge collectors (2)
    $148.49


    Flanges

    Custom made collector/exhaust flanges (quantity - 2)
    $19.04


    O2 Sensor Bung
    HLY-534-49
    Holley O2 weld-in bungs (quantity - 4)
    $21.65


    Reducer

    Dr. Gas 3-1/2 to 2-3/4 reducer (quantity - 2)
    $35.26


    Welding

    Welding supplies (TIG rental, gas, welding rod)
    $201.28


    Welding Labor

    Approximately 10 hours welding (66 full circle welds)
    $200.00


    Coating

    Jet-Hot 2000 Ceramic coating
    $234.80

    Exhaust Headers Sub Tot



    $1,076.37







    Exhaust System






    Misc. Bends

    3 & 3-1/2 90 bends
    $198.66


    Reducers

    3-1/2 OD to 3 ID reducers (quantity - 4)
    $52.00


    Junction

    3-1/2 to 3 Dr. Gas X pipe
    $154.34


    Gaskets
    MRG1209
    Mr. Gasket 4 bolt header flange gaskets
    $12.97


    Misc. Pipe

    3 & 3-1/2 pipe sections
    $87.65


    Flanges

    Custom made 4 bolt flanges (quantity - 8)
    $76.16


    Mufflers
    17792
    DynoMax Super Turbo (quantity - 2)
    $124.00


    Converters
    93009
    Carsound 3 diameter Catalytic Converters
    $202.00


    Tailpipes

    Torque Tech 3 diameter GM G-body GN exit tailpipes
    $207.84


    Coating

    Performance Coatings ceramic coating of head pipe
    $105.26


    Misc. bolts/nuts

    Misc. 10mm bolts and flange nuts (quantity 16 ea.)
    $16.13


    Plug

    18mm x 1.5 bolt for O2 plug
    $3.13


    O2 Sensor Bung
    HLY-534-49
    Holley O2 weld-in bungs (quantity - 2)
    $10.83

    Exhaust System Sub Total



    $1,250.97







    Transmission






    Shifter
    PRO 5.0
    Shifter for T56 w/shipping
    $169.00







    Software






    Diagnostic
    AT1
    B&B AUTOTAP diagnostic software
    $260.98


    Programming

    LS1_Edit PCM software (Share price w/3 licenses)
    $275.00

    Software Sub Total



    $535.98

    Phase II Mod Total



    $7,105.57

    Phase I Installation Total



    $9,023.16

    Total Project PI & PII



    $16,128.73

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    trans am 00 ws6
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    that's john b's old right he now has a 427 ls7 in his. i like that write up. i am still thinking of going carbed to save a lot of time and money.

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    had a 71 plymouth duster for a few days


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    I had a 70 firebird with a powerglide but I ditched that and got a 73 LeMans Sport with a 400 and I loved that car! It was black and looked mean. Don't ask me for specifics (this was WAY back in 1983) but I remember I put a 540 (I believe) lift Crane Cam in it with a Performer dual plane mid-rise manifold and a Holly 750cfm carb with mechanical secondaries. Black Jack long tubes and a B&M trans pack/shift kit. I was in auto tech school engine rebuilding class and was making good money for being 17 years old ($250 a week LOL!) Me and my classmates did all of the work under the supervision of my instructor from the crankshaft out. Balanced the rods and pistons, shaved the heads ect. That thing was a torque monster! And big as a battleship . . . I sold it when I went on the Aircraft Carrier after graduation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmc978 View Post
    had a 71 plymouth duster for a few days
    a few days what happened a bank hold up ? stock suspension give up on you on a twisty road or was it the infamous thrown rod ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1fastcamarosss11 View Post
    that's john b's old right he now has a 427 ls7 in his. i like that write up. i am still thinking of going carbed to save a lot of time and money.
    really whats his sn on here ?I would go for the carbed to.tune it yourself are u goin with the t56 or the auto ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goat-E View Post
    I had a 70 firebird with a powerglide but I ditched that and got a 73 LeMans Sport with a 400 and I loved that car! It was black and looked mean. Don't ask me for specifics (this was WAY back in 1983) but I remember I put a 540 (I believe) lift Crane Cam in it with a Performer dual plane mid-rise manifold and a Holly 750cfm carb with mechanical secondaries. Black Jack long tubes and a B&M trans pack/shift kit. I was in auto tech school engine rebuilding class and was making good money for being 17 years old ($250 a week LOL!) Me and my classmates did all of the work under the supervision of my instructor from the crankshaft out. Balanced the rods and pistons, shaved the heads ect. That thing was a torque monster! And big as a battleship . . . I sold it when I went on the Aircraft Carrier after graduation.
    Classic muscle is the only way to go i bet you watch out for carving the canyons on stock suspension haha.
    Those Lemans are awesome machines of power, torque and the will to keep on going after beating the snot out of them. How long did you have it ?
    Last edited by 402 Guru; 12-10-2009 at 06:49 AM. Reason: auto

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    My dads got a 66 gto that he has had since the 70's

    I had a supercharged 89 formula it was a super fun car but not clasic

    oh and I just got my grandmothers 82 sky lark

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    Quote Originally Posted by 402 Guru View Post
    Classic muscle is the only way to go i bet you watch out for carving the canyons on stock suspension haha.
    Those Lemans are awesome machines of power, torque and the will to keep on going after beating the snot out of them. How long did you have it ?
    I only had it for 2 years. I went into the Navy after highschool and sold it to a buddy of mine cuz it made no sense to me to carry insurance on a car that was gonna sit while I was out of the country for 6+ months at a time. Insurance is big $$$ when you are that young and on military wages.
    I live in South Florida, the closest thing we have to a canyon road is a highway off ramp LOL! When I was in Pennsylvania I had an IROC Daytona but the roads there are terrible and the suspension took a real beating. Thank god my dad owned the Dodge dealership, it really saved my ass on repairs. I tore up all kinds of control arms and I cracked 2 rims on pot-holes.
    I love the 04' GTO that I have now. I put a Harrop sport differential mount and a full Pedders bushing kit in it about a month ago and this thing grips like a SOB now. If only I could find a twisty back country road to actually take a turn on! I might drive it up up to Lewisville North Carolina some day and visit my buddy, they've got plenty of twistys up there.
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    '98 WS6 M6 - SWAPTIME!

    I have a '72 Camaro SS that I had originally put in a 383 Stroker with forged internals and nitrous (hate that crap)
    now that I'm selling it, it has a brand new 350 in it.

    Nothin super exciting, but it's a neat looking car

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    trans am 00 ws6
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    Quote Originally Posted by 402 Guru View Post
    really whats his sn on here ?I would go for the carbed to.tune it yourself are u goin with the t56 or the auto ?


    Classic muscle is the only way to go i bet you watch out for carving the canyons on stock suspension haha.
    Those Lemans are awesome machines of power, torque and the will to keep on going after beating the snot out of them. How long did you have it ?
    he on tech and ls1.com under john b i'm pretty sure. type ls7 monte carlo ss i'm sure it will come up.

    auto with a stall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat-E View Post
    I only had it for 2 years. I went into the Navy after highschool and sold it to a buddy of mine cuz it made no sense to me to carry insurance on a car that was gonna sit while I was out of the country for 6+ months at a time. Insurance is big $$$ when you are that young and on military wages.
    I live in South Florida, the closest thing we have to a canyon road is a highway off ramp LOL! When I was in Pennsylvania I had an IROC Daytona but the roads there are terrible and the suspension took a real beating. Thank god my dad owned the Dodge dealership, it really saved my ass on repairs. I tore up all kinds of control arms and I cracked 2 rims on pot-holes.
    I love the 04' GTO that I have now. I put a Harrop sport differential mount and a full Pedders bushing kit in it about a month ago and this thing grips like a SOB now. If only I could find a twisty back country road to actually take a turn on! I might drive it up up to Lewisville North Carolina some day and visit my buddy, they've got plenty of twistys up there.
    yes thats understandable im inlisted in the airforce and have alought of free time on my hands so recently i have not been able to drive my car and it sucks but i know when i get home i get to drive the hell out of my car till the wheels fall off after all the work i put into it i figure theres no way in hell i'll ever sell mine . If you want( for a x-mas gift to yourself theres sales everywhere) to take some corners off the freeway rams like Powersliding or faint drifting then get a bigger sway bar when u go cross country and you will thank yourself that u added it
    Quote Originally Posted by tep98ws6 View Post
    I have a '72 Camaro SS that I had originally put in a 383 Stroker with forged internals and nitrous (hate that crap)
    now that I'm selling it, it has a brand new 350 in it.

    Nothin super exciting, but it's a neat looking car
    Yeah i dislike nitrous with a passion( my wife likes to use it though) after my drag racing days i buit a 9.5 nitrous ls1 then rebuilt the sob after 15 runs because i kept trying to break records but my bank got broken instead lol the 72 ss is a Sick example of american muscle

    Quote Originally Posted by 1fastcamarosss11 View Post
    he on tech and ls1.com under john b i'm pretty sure. type ls7 monte carlo ss i'm sure it will come up.

    auto with a stall.
    Sounds sick i don't preferably like ls1.com they think that they are invincible where people on here are friendly when they are just like everyone else thats why i think this site Rocks and are Moderators rock i'll check that build out it looks interesting what kind of a stall did he go with ?
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    its not muscle but i have a 1921 model t truck havnt seen one like it fully restored inline 4 max of 17mph wooot had it for 10 years...

    oh yeah cant for get i got a 69 camaro ss with a 383 stroker still in work tho for the last 18 years lol

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    Until the Trans Am, our fun cars were all old school: '74 Corvette L-82, '70 Cutlass W-31, '67 Cutlass with a 330, and three '66 Buicks which will be combined to build one Wildcat convertible motivated by a 401 Nailhead, with a 340 as a backup motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    Until the Trans Am, our fun cars were all old school: '74 Corvette L-82, '70 Cutlass W-31, '67 Cutlass with a 330, and three '66 Buicks which will be combined to build one Wildcat convertible motivated by a 401 Nailhead, with a 340 as a backup motor.
    cool man got pics ? the 402 nailhead's were one of a kind engines that i will never forget the sound of a camed 401 hearing every cylinder hit at the same time quite amazing indeed how long did it take to finish sir ?
    Quote Originally Posted by camaroz98 View Post
    its not muscle but i have a 1921 model t truck havnt seen one like it fully restored inline 4 max of 17mph wooot had it for 10 years...

    oh yeah cant for get i got a 69 camaro ss with a 383 stroker still in work tho for the last 18 years lol
    Thats sick a model T truck do u take it to the parades downtown in vegas that they have every year on st. patricks day or something . u shoulds post up some pics of the 69 SS what all have u done to it? what needs to be done to it ?
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    no not in vegas i enter it in shows back in wisconsin tho and all the ss needs is interior and a new trans cuz my mom blew it up this summer not to much done with it tho started as a restore and got a great deal on a 383 stroker from a friend holly carb aluminum race heads edlebrock intake hooker headers with flowmaster cans 9in rear and 373 gears just put on the back bunner till i get outa the military and back to wisconsin but ill see if i can get sum pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by 402 Guru View Post
    cool man got pics ? the 402 nailhead's were one of a kind engines that i will never forget the sound of a camed 401 hearing every cylinder hit at the same time quite amazing indeed how long did it take to finish sir ?

    This is the original Wildcat: Diamond in the rough -- really rough. I have the entire chassis, engine and driveline completed setting next to it. The restoration originally started out with a '66 LeSabre convertible -- hence the 340 engine. In searching for impossible to find parts, a gentleman in Virginia sold me a 4 door LeSabre and the Wildcat. In the interim, I had started the restoration on the Corvette, which is completed, and the W-31, which the chassis is completed.

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    black 01 red 73
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    73 R/S Z 28 completly stock

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajeff02 View Post
    This is the original Wildcat: Diamond in the rough -- really rough. I have the entire chassis, engine and driveline completed setting next to it. The restoration originally started out with a '66 LeSabre convertible -- hence the 340 engine. In searching for impossible to find parts, a gentleman in Virginia sold me a 4 door LeSabre and the Wildcat. In the interim, I had started the restoration on the Corvette, which is completed, and the W-31, which the chassis is completed.
    that is sick man can u take some pictures? frame off restorations are the real car builders Dream with all the blood,sweat and tears that go into it they make your lifetime feel like you have accomplished your life goals Congratulations man !
    Quote Originally Posted by twozs View Post
    73 R/S Z 28 completly stock Click for full size Click for full size
    that is a nice looking 2nd get i like the colors is that a vinal top or 2 tone cant tell . good quality pictures' of the z's
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