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This is a discussion on winter time is cam time. within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; I have the c5r timing chain but many see that as overkill and just get the ls2 timing chain. I ...

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    I have the c5r timing chain but many see that as overkill and just get the ls2 timing chain. I have slp oil pump (made by melling) which is the same as the melling High volume oil pump but just has slp's stamp on it. Both pieces are high quality pieces. Here's pictures if you want them.


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    I hope that now u would have got solved up with the problem of yours tremendously...

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    i went with ls2 chain and tsp ported ls6 oil pump which gave me 12-20psi more oil pressure at all times

    stock pump and chain


    ls1 chain vs ls2


    new pump and ls2 chain


    stock spring vs comp 918
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    Quote Originally Posted by robs98mysticZ View Post
    i went with ls2 chain and tsp ported ls6 oil pump which gave me 12-20psi more oil pressure at all times

    stock pump and chain
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    ls1 chain vs ls2
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    new pump and ls2 chain
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    stock spring vs comp 918
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    Seeing all these pictures is helping me see why the stock parts would need upgraded! Thanks for all he help and insight you guys I believe I'll go way of an ls2 chain and most likely the ported oil pump.still on the fence with cam and stall brand I'm going with a 3600 rpm I believe just don't know which flavor I hear yank are reliable though.

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    For a stall I would do your research. Yank, Vigilante, Circle D are all very good converters but with a high price tag depending on the one you go with. I would stay away from TCI, I have heard some really bad stories about the cheapness which resulted in messed up transmissions. Edge, Revmax, and FTI make sound converters which may be on par with the bigger names but I have no information or experience to really back that up with. Edge and Revmaxx will make the converter custom based on your application and information you supply them with.

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    Yeah I saw some yank tc for about 700-1000 usd! it's insane, but worth the price if it doesn't make me have to replace a 15-2500 dollar trans.

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    Well I've figured out my can I will be going the 228r from tsp next thing I need to figure ls7 lifters yay or nay anything to be gained over the ls1 lifters? I know I don't need them but I figure why not go the extra mile?

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    If you have the cash go with BTRs. They are better but they are $300 vs $140. LS7s are better than ls1s and they don't even make ls1 lifters anymore so ls7s are the stock replacement for them. Your pushrod length will change so you will need to measure with a adjustable pushrod checker what the length is. With the stock cam and ls7 lifters I had a pushrod length of 3.375 I believe. Also you will need ls2 lifter trays to work properly with the ls7 lifters, that or drill the holes out slightly bigger but the trays are only $32 for all four so it is not even really worth the time to do that.

    For piece of mind I would at least go with ls7 lifters. I believe I have some ls7s that are unused except oiled up if you are interested, I decided to go with BTRs instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    If you have the cash go with BTRs. They are better but they are $300 vs $140. LS7s are better than ls1s and they don't even make ls1 lifters anymore so ls7s are the stock replacement for them. Your pushrod length will change so you will need to measure with a adjustable pushrod checker what the length is. With the stock cam and ls7 lifters I had a pushrod length of 3.375 I believe. Also you will need ls2 lifter trays to work properly with the ls7 lifters, that or drill the holes out slightly bigger but the trays are only $32 for all four so it is not even really worth the time to do that.

    For piece of mind I would at least go with ls7 lifters. I believe I have some ls7s that are unused except oiled up if you are interested, I decided to go with BTRs instead.
    Oh so its necessary to change lifters? Also I was told the pushrod length would stay the same with the setup I have should a use a checker first before I order 7.400 and find them too long? How much for the lifters if you're selling them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freaky57fast View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    If you have the cash go with BTRs. They are better but they are $300 vs $140. LS7s are better than ls1s and they don't even make ls1 lifters anymore so ls7s are the stock replacement for them. Your pushrod length will change so you will need to measure with a adjustable pushrod checker what the length is. With the stock cam and ls7 lifters I had a pushrod length of 3.375 I believe. Also you will need ls2 lifter trays to work properly with the ls7 lifters, that or drill the holes out slightly bigger but the trays are only $32 for all four so it is not even really worth the time to do that.

    For piece of mind I would at least go with ls7 lifters. I believe I have some ls7s that are unused except oiled up if you are interested, I decided to go with BTRs instead.
    Oh so its necessary to change lifters? Also I was told the pushrod length would stay the same with the setup I have should a use a checker first before I order 7.400 and find them too long? How much for the lifters if you're selling them?
    It isn't exactly necessary to change them but I would. A lifter going bad can do really bad things to your engine such as taking out the cam and cam bearings. When you change lifters, put a different cam in, or change heads it is absolutely necessary to measure pushrod length. The reason is the cam's base circle could be different from stock, the heads could have been milled down on the base without your knowledge and the lifters preload could be different. So to a answer your question, yes I would measure length to be sure but this would have to be after heads and cam are installed to get the proper length.

    As for the question about my lifters let me make sure I still have them but I was thinking $100 shipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    It isn't exactly necessary to change them but I would. A lifter going bad can do really bad things to your engine such as taking out the cam and cam bearings. When you change lifters, put a different cam in, or change heads it is absolutely necessary to measure pushrod length. The reason is the cam's base circle could be different from stock, the heads could have been milled down on the base without your knowledge and the lifters preload could be different. So to a answer your question, yes I would measure length to be sure but this would have to be after heads and cam are installed to get the proper length.

    As for the question about my lifters let me make sure I still have them but I was thinking $100 shipped.
    Cool that'll save me like $50 just let me know .

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    Quote Originally Posted by freaky57fast View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 98TransAmWs-6 View Post
    It isn't exactly necessary to change them but I would. A lifter going bad can do really bad things to your engine such as taking out the cam and cam bearings. When you change lifters, put a different cam in, or change heads it is absolutely necessary to measure pushrod length. The reason is the cam's base circle could be different from stock, the heads could have been milled down on the base without your knowledge and the lifters preload could be different. So to a answer your question, yes I would measure length to be sure but this would have to be after heads and cam are installed to get the proper length.

    As for the question about my lifters let me make sure I still have them but I was thinking $100 shipped.
    Cool that'll save me like $50 just let me know .
    I'll check tonight after work and let you know.

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