Who's using the magic stick 4

**stunna p** · 10-01-2009, 04:45 AM

Im thinking about getting the magic stick 4 cam, any feedback... good, or bad........

**stunna p** · 10-01-2009, 06:08 AM

Also, what valve springs did u choose?

**stunna p** · 10-01-2009, 06:09 AM

and the valve spring tool..

**Hi-Po** · 10-01-2009, 10:56 AM

Did not go with the MS4. Doesnt sound like you have read up on it very much, kinda just picked it out maybe? Read up.

Going to need a double spring

Use the 'old' Crane spring tool. SpeedInc sells them, they work great.

**35thz28camaro** · 10-01-2009, 11:09 AM

i love my ms4. it made 401rwhp with a 4000 stalled a4. with stock 2.73 gears and a 125shot it ran a 10.93 @ 125.

**stunna p** · 10-01-2009, 11:23 AM

I asked about the springs because comp, patriot, precision race components etc. make double springs, cause i know with a high lift cam .649/ .609
u gotta change valve springs more often.
i was curious who might have used what springs with more mile intervals, had better luck, etc...after researching cams for the last 3 months ive deceided the ms4 is the way for me!

**Hi-Po** · 10-01-2009, 12:16 PM

Patroits seem to be very common and have a nice price.

**35thz28camaro** · 10-01-2009, 12:52 PM

i have the prc springs, no problems. have about 25k on them now

**NorthwoodDavid** · 10-01-2009, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by 35thz28camaro

i love my ms4. it made 401rwhp with a 4000 stalled a4. with stock 2.73 gears and a 125shot it ran a 10.93 @ 125.

401rwhp before the 125shot? right...

**blackbirdbrain89** · 10-01-2009, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by 35thz28camaro

i love my ms4. it made 401rwhp with a 4000 stalled a4. with stock 2.73 gears and a 125shot it ran a 10.93 @ 125.

ok but what does ur power band look like? that cam is not good for a stocker at all even with a ls6 intake u cant get the right air to it.. for n/a set ups with a lil n2o it will be good because of where the power is and how long u stay in to it in each gear

**Mr. Luos** · 10-01-2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by 35thz28camaro

i have the prc springs, no problems. have about 25k on them now

I'd be seriously replacing those.....like now.

I like the MS4 for drag cars.
Not for cars that see much street time.

**35thz28camaro** · 10-01-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by northwooddavid

401rwhp before the 125shot? Right...

right. 401 on motor

**35thz28camaro** · 10-01-2009, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

I'd be seriously replacing those.....like now.

I like the MS4 for drag cars.
Not for cars that see much street time.

lol i have only had the cam in it for 1 1/2 years. i drive it every day. i am planing on building a motor the first of the year and i will replace them then.

**Mr. Luos** · 10-01-2009, 02:09 PM

We all have our own limits as to what is streetable.

To me, 4000 stall isn't, but to you, it is. All in the perspective.

But yeah, I will be replacing my valvesprings at 15-16K with my cam.

**justinmc978** · 10-01-2009, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by stunna p

Im thinking about getting the magic stick 4 cam, any feedback... good, or bad........

got a bud with one, he daily drives, he goes through m6 trannys like you wouldnt believe, maybe driver mod? idk. also it barely idles, it dies regularly, maybe he needs a tune and maybe make the hole in the throttle body valve bigger to raise the idle rpm.

if you do this, upgrade heads, rods lifters springs get headers ls6/fast intake you'll need some ca$h bud

**5abivt** · 10-02-2009, 04:30 AM

I use my magic stick 4 watching xnxx at night

**SLICK_lS1** · 10-04-2009, 08:31 AM

I got the ms4 and it sweet. get the patriot .660 kit they sell. Also get a fast 90 90 cuz its needs the air. Also i ordered my hooker 1 7/8 which should help it out. and get at least 36 pounders. I have this setup and it sweet. BUT alot of money lol. - Mike

**MrKid** · 10-05-2009, 12:45 PM

I've researched the MS4 for a few months, and I'm definately going with it. You will most likely need a good dino tune after the swap. It won't be as bad with an M6 as an A4. Definately add a rebuilt tranny into your budget. Mine is coming out and heading off to tick shift next week. As for the springs, I woul call TSAP. I have heard nothing but good things about their support, and they won't sell you something that will break. They know they'll get flamed on every LS forum out there.