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What do you guys think of this cam?

This is a discussion on What do you guys think of this cam? within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; http://exoticperformanceplus.com/per....html?item=652 It's pretty cheap compared to most, so I thought i'd ask around. Is patriot a good brand? mods in ...

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    What do you guys think of this cam?

    http://exoticperformanceplus.com/per....html?item=652

    It's pretty cheap compared to most, so I thought i'd ask around. Is patriot a good brand? mods in sig
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    i have not heard any problems with that cam.
    its a rather streetable cam.
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    From what I've heard it's not that bad. The 224/224 is what a friend of mine runs in his m6 Camaro. He'll pull on me down low but up top he can't keep up with mine (231/237) in an A4 WS6. It's a good cam with good torque starting around 2000rpm and pulling to 5800 rpm.

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    I think I'll get this timing chain: http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...5c611ee2eedb8e

    There isn't anything else necessary to run a cam right? I know springs and retainers would help and so would a new set of p&p heads but UConn bills come first

    What kind of power should I see with it after a full dyno tune?
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    You can get that chain at GM parts direct for $28.80 if you want to save some cash. Depending on how many miles you have you might want to look into a ported oil pump. I'd get some chromoly push rods and new gaskets definetly.

    With a good tune I would say 380-390 would be reasonable.

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    Get a custom one made for you

    with a dyno tune 370-390

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICRAZY6 View Post
    You can get that chain at GM parts direct for $28.80 if you want to save some cash. Depending on how many miles you have you might want to look into a ported oil pump. I'd get some chromoly push rods and new gaskets definetly.

    With a good tune I would say 380-390 would be reasonable.
    I just passed 70K and i'm not too happy about it. This project will probably be out of my budget if i need a ported oil pump, pushrods and gaskets. I also hate that gmpartsdirect site, I looked up the part number for the ls2 timing chain and it has no description at all. All it says is belt or chain; engine timing.

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    You can always call a gm dealer ask for the part number and then order from that site. I've done that a few times without a problem. When you do the install just take your time and be meticulous with your work and things will turn out fine. Good luck!

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    I hate it when people call me up and ask for a part number so they can go buy parts somewhere else. Most of us work on commission. I would rather sell you the part at a discounted price then lose the sale. so next time just ask the dealer if they do price matching. I know I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1 View Post
    I just passed 70K and i'm not too happy about it. This project will probably be out of my budget if i need a ported oil pump, pushrods and gaskets. I also hate that gmpartsdirect site, I looked up the part number for the ls2 timing chain and it has no description at all. All it says is belt or chain; engine timing.
    I feel your pain. A 5k planned spending price ended up being well over 8k. You might look into cam packages like other places sell. I got my cam, hardened pushrods, titanium retainers, Dual valvesprings, valve seals, hardened seats etc for right at 800$. My kit would cost more as I had to have at least the duals for my cam ours might not require as much and will probably be a little cheaper. Look around for a kit save some. I would guess that parts only should be close to if not over 500 for everything needed to do it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texinteg View Post
    I hate it when people call me up and ask for a part number so they can go buy parts somewhere else. Most of us work on commission. I would rather sell you the part at a discounted price then lose the sale. so next time just ask the dealer if they do price matching. I know I do.
    I never knew the dealer would do price matching.

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    how big can you go on stock valve springs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1 View Post
    I think I'll get this timing chain: http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...5c611ee2eedb8e

    There isn't anything else necessary to run a cam right? I know springs and retainers would help and so would a new set of p&p heads but UConn bills come first

    What kind of power should I see with it after a full dyno tune?
    You HAVE to put upgraded springs in with that cam. Period. No two ways about it. Look into a Pac918 spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 35thz28camaro View Post
    how big can you go on stock valve springs?
    maybe .525 but probably smaller than that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICRAZY6 View Post
    From what I've heard it's not that bad. The 224/224 is what a friend of mine runs in his m6 Camaro. He'll pull on me down low but up top he can't keep up with mine (231/237) in an A4 WS6. It's a good cam with good torque starting around 2000rpm and pulling to 5800 rpm.
    you have any sound clips, dyno sheets, etc of your 231/237...?

    im running a 224 .581 @112lsa right now and have a 231/237 on my floor i plan to put in. id like your feedback on this cam...TIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1 View Post
    I think I'll get this timing chain: http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/...5c611ee2eedb8e

    There isn't anything else necessary to run a cam right? I know springs and retainers would help and so would a new set of p&p heads but UConn bills come first

    What kind of power should I see with it after a full dyno tune?
    Timing chain is optional, springs are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSwt00SS View Post
    you have any sound clips, dyno sheets, etc of your 231/237...?

    im running a 224 .581 @112lsa right now and have a 231/237 on my floor i plan to put in. id like your feedback on this cam...TIA
    I found you one: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...320110f039.htm

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    Don't have the sound clips but do have dyno sheets. They're at home. But I'm loving this cam. Its great. If you want to pm me any questions you have I'll get back with you as soon as I can.

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