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    Want to run solid 11's... what do I need to get th

    OK so 11's is the goal. I need your experience to tell me what it takes to get there. A few rules.... the car needs to be reliable. I don't want to be under the hood every weekend. I'm the type that if I'm going to do it, it is going to be done right the first time. It also needs to have good street manors... decent idle quality and not too loud. Also I want to keep a lockup style converter so that might limit the size of the cam as well. Needs to be pump gas friendly.

    I have been doing some research and think I know a few of the things I want so far, but nothing is set in stone yet. I'm trying to get a part list built up so I can start ordering.

    -AFR 205s assembled head
    -QTP or Kooks SS LT headers
    -Nice Y pipe setup
    -Fast intake
    -cam and converter are still up in the air depending on what you guys think it will take to get in the 11's
    -better roller rockers, lifters and pushrods (need ideas)
    -tranny mods?
    -rear end (3.73?)
    -MC racing in KC will do the tuning. They tune modded LS vettes all day long!



    Hopefully that gives you folks an idea the direction I'm wanting to go. Your help and experience is appreciated!

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    get a 228/228 cam on a 114 lsa and a 3500 rpm stall and youll be in the solid 11s.
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    I'm seeing that a 230 range cam *only* will push the car easily into the 11's. Didn't know these engines responded that well. But I'm not sure how streetable that cam will be. I was wondering if a 224 cam with the supporting mods I have listed will have more "power under the curve" but still run in the 11's. Maybe the 230 is more streetable than what I think. These are cars.. not trucks.

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    clone, i have a 224 cam, stock heads, long tubes, catless y pipe, hooker exhaust, ls6 intake, volant cai, 3000 tci stall and tuning and im doing high 11s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    clone, i have a 224 cam, stock heads, long tubes, catless y pipe, hooker exhaust, ls6 intake, volant cai, 3000 tci stall and tuning and im doing high 11s.
    nice where do you think your at without the stall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    clone, i have a 224 cam, stock heads, long tubes, catless y pipe, hooker exhaust, ls6 intake, volant cai, 3000 tci stall and tuning and im doing high 11s.
    Nice! So you like the all around power of the 224? I looking at the TR224. Seems to be a popular cam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigersport14 View Post
    nice where do you think your at without the stall?
    about a half second slower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    Nice! So you like the all around power of the 224? I looking at the TR224. Seems to be a popular cam.
    i dont like thunder racings version, it has a lower lift than most 224 cams out there.
    i have the 581 lift and have xer lobes.
    a 224 or a 228 are basicly the best street cams out there.
    great power threwout the whole power band.

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    Dont need heads to go 11s in an A4, hell don't even need a camswap for that matter. I known a few guys that do it stock internally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    i dont like thunder racings version, it has a lower lift than most 224 cams out there.
    i have the 581 lift and have xer lobes.
    a 224 or a 228 are basicly the best street cams out there.
    great power threwout the whole power band.
    Oh I see. It appears TR tried to make this cam to throw in with stock valve springs and heads.

    The 224 cam you are using has Comp cams lobes then? Is it a TSP 224R? What lsa do you have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by INMY01TA View Post
    Dont need heads to go 11s in an A4, hell don't even need a camswap for that matter. I known a few guys that do it stock internally.
    Well I will go ahead and use the best parts I can. Remember, I only want to pull that engine out one time. I'm shooting for 11's. If I run 10's, that is better than getting done and getting a 12 second car because I was a cheap skate on heads.

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    Also the car has 119,xxx on the odometer. So the stock heads would need new valves, guides and springs at bare minimum. Why spend $$ on them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    about a half second slower.
    wow... that makes a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    Oh I see. It appears TR tried to make this cam to throw in with stock valve springs and heads.

    The 224 cam you are using has Comp cams lobes then? Is it a TSP 224R? What lsa do you have?
    i got my cam from speed inc.
    its a common comp cams grind. any tuner can order that grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    i dont like thunder racings version, it has a lower lift than most 224 cams out there.
    i have the 581 lift and have xer lobes.
    a 224 or a 228 are basicly the best street cams out there.
    great power threwout the whole power band.

    that is what i had in my last engine... i really enjoyed it... i miss the lope now... i need ot get another cam... i'm thinking of a 228... i don't feel like having to rev up to 7,200 rpm...

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    You can go in the 11's without a cam. Just do full bolt-ons,Long tubes,4:10 gear,with 3500+ convertor(4000 if you want).I went 11:66 @116+ with no cam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99transamC/FIA View Post
    You can go in the 11's without a cam. Just do full bolt-ons,Long tubes,4:10 gear,with 3500+ convertor(4000 if you want).I went 11:66 @116+ with no cam.
    drag slicks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigersport14 View Post
    drag slicks?
    Or DOT drags. That wasn't on street tires.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clone View Post
    Or DOT drags. That wasn't on street tires.....
    sorry, whats dot drags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigersport14 View Post
    sorry, whats dot drags?
    I think they are basically just a drag slick with a couple of grooves put in them to make them street legal. On another note I went with the tr224 cam in my M6 I liked it alot, but now I'm wanting more power, so I'm going with a bigger cam.

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