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    One other thing I noticed was the torque specs for the retainer plate and cam gear. 18 and 26 ft/lbs. That doesn't really seem like enough to me. That's where I torqued them to but I would've thought it would be higher than that.

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    You guys are fucking nuts!

    Wish I had the balls to do what you guys are doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    You guys are fucking nuts!

    Wish I had the balls to do what you guys are doing
    You do. Just make sure you have a daily driver when you tear shit up. Honestly, I remember when we bought the car and I was thinking there was no way in hell I was gonna put headers on it myself. I looked around for someone to do it and at the time most places didn't do it so I just decided not to do headers. Then a few months later my wife bought me one of those big ass sets of craftsman tools because I was always working on our cars and always had to make 2-3 runs for tools. I started thinking maybe I could handle headers. Then I found all the write ups and shit on the web and thought " I can read, and I know righty tighty, lefty loosey". Next thing you know I'm tearing all kinds of shit off the car. I've dropped the tranny, replaced the rear, dropped the gas tank, intake, and did those headers. Just work the nerve up and get a good set of tools. Makes a huge difference. After you start on it you'll never stop. I've worked on cars since I was 16 but mostly it was the usual stuff like fuel pumps, brakes, shocks, and stuff like that. Never really had to tear into any cars up until this one. Very satisfying work when it goes right. Now when it goes wrong that's another story. I've had to replace a few of those tools from the box my wife bought me. A few got bent up and a few are lost in the woods next to our house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juiced99ws6 View Post
    yeah after i posted that I decided I need to take it all apart. I am going to check the package again today and see if it came with shims. Only shitty thing is that I have got to go rent that pully puller again from autozone. if the car wasat my house then I would probrably be done by now but its hard to get to my car without a car lol.
    to use a double roller timing chain, you have to shim the oil pump outward. i'm using the crane double roller adjustable timing chain. here's what the spacers look like.

    http://www.stealthram.com/familypics...pumpspacer.jpg

    and this is what it looks like spaced out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    One other thing I noticed was the torque specs for the retainer plate and cam gear. 18 and 26 ft/lbs. That doesn't really seem like enough to me. That's where I torqued them to but I would've thought it would be higher than that.
    if you haven't already, put locktite on the bolts. there's been enough people have those bolts back out and lose a motor over it. mine are locktited in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    to use a double roller timing chain, you have to shim the oil pump outward. i'm using the crane double roller adjustable timing chain. here's what the spacers look like.

    http://www.stealthram.com/familypics...pumpspacer.jpg

    and this is what it looks like spaced out.

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    thanks for the pic man, i am going to prep everything for the new oil pump tomorrow so it seems easy enough

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    no problem. like i said earlier, locktite the retainer and cam bolts.

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    did you have any front cover clearence issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    no problem. like i said earlier, locktite the retainer and cam bolts.
    will do, ill steal some from work when I go back in a few minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    if you haven't already, put locktite on the bolts. there's been enough people have those bolts back out and lose a motor over it. mine are locktited in.
    Yeah, I used loctite on mine except I used the blue instead of the red. Think that'll be a problem? I only had the blue laying around and some white which I'm not even sure wtf the white is for and why I have it.

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    white should be teflon paste. used for sealing. the blue is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    white should be teflon paste. used for sealing. the blue is fine.
    yeah, but why do I have it?? I'm sure I picked it up a while back and never used it. I have tons of shit that fall into that category. I'll stumble onto stupid stuff like that but can't find the important stuff I'm looking for like my camper keys that I lost a few weeks ago and still haven't found. They're here at the house somewhere, just don't know where. I bet they'll be in the very last place I look.

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    Hats off. Now that I can see th epics, it looks like a lot of fun.

    I dont have the tools or the patience. However, id really like to do it one day with someone that knows how so I can learn. Its the only way I can do it.

    I have a...condition that prevents me from doing shit like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    Hats off. Now that I can see th epics, it looks like a lot of fun.

    I dont have the tools or the patience. However, id really like to do it one day with someone that knows how so I can learn. Its the only way I can do it.

    I have a...condition that prevents me from doing shit like this.
    this is my first time so I am going slow and having a freind help me. its not hard at all. Now that the engine is all tore apart I know I can put it together easily within a couple hours I just need help with getting all the sensors hooked back up and getting it in the car since i didnt take them all off I dont really know where they all go.

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    Ok, here's a contest. The winner gets nothing but the satisfaction of knowing they have a keen eye. I was putting everything away for the night and went to come in out of the garage and I remembered I forgot to do something. I got the wrenches back out and fixed my mistake. Hint: Huge Huge mistake that would've made me have to pull the motor after I got everything back together and fired it up. I'll let you guys see if you can figure it out then I'll tell you the dumbass move I *almost* made. Here's the pic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by juiced99ws6 View Post
    did you have any front cover clearence issues?
    no. plenty of room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0rion View Post
    I bet they'll be in the very last place I look.
    i can't imagine why that would be...

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    no guesses on what's wrong with the picture?

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    nope I just looked at it again for a few minutes and I cant see it. I was thinking the tube to the oil pump but I dont think you would take it from that angle.. so nope I got nothing, make me wonder about my install!!

    anyways I prepped the car again for the new oil pump tomorrow. I will take pictures then. I have plenty of oil pump shavings to clean outta there and dug a nice little groove in the oil pump but I got it all figured out now and reinstalled the oil pump with the shims and new bolts and test fitted the cover and all seems well now tomorrow ill try to get everything on but the heads so that its ready to go back in the car on saturday.

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    The arrow is pointing to a rag I left in the oil pan. I put everything back together and was heading inside for the night when I remembered the rag was still in there. Had to drop the pan again to get it out.


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