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04-12-2008, 08:51 AM #1
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So it Begins
Well, after owning the car for 3 years and 11 months, and planning on it all along, I finally had the money set aside to do a couple mods. The list:
Rapid Dominator Series Cam Kit
Rapid Ported LS6 Oil Pump
GM HD Timing Chain
SLP 160* T-Stat
Power Bond 25% U/D Balancer with Belts
NGK TR-55 Spark Plugs
Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust
SLP LS1 Air Lid
LS6 85mm MAF with Adaptor
2001+ Coolant Pipe Kit
ARH 1-3/4"SS Headers
ARH Off-Road Y Pipe - 3"
O2 Harness Extension
The guy at the shop put more or less this same list onto an 01 SS and got 429/404 out of it. So since that had the LS6 intake vs mine, I'm setting my expectations at about 410/400 at the wheels.
Total cost including labor: 5500
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04-12-2008, 10:07 AM #2
I have tuned a few setups that came from Mike at Rapid, and he built some good engines in those cars. I'd say that you are in good hands.
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04-12-2008, 11:00 AM #3
400+ on stock heads? What's the specs on that cam?
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04-12-2008, 01:34 PM #4
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He won't give them out. I've seen him post on other boards and people always ask him for his cam specs and he always remains mum on the subject.
I just got off the phone with him about an hour ago, and he told me most of the parts came today. While we were talking he said he put the same grind cam into an 04 Z06 and it put down 440 when he tuned it last week. He said that my 410 expectation will almost certainly be realized.
Actually, Frost, you had posted the same thing in a thread a while back, and it was some part of my choosing to go with Rapid over another local shop. That and Rapid is a strict LS shop, and the other guy was more of a Ford guy (though his 800+ rwhp Ford GT was pretty F'in sweet).
Car goes in Wed and I should have it back Monday at the latest. Today was the first day of the spring where I took it out with the T-Tops off. It is safe to say I'm excited.
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04-12-2008, 02:20 PM #5
Happy times.
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04-12-2008, 02:41 PM #6
That LS1 intake is likely going to hurt you more than you are thinking, but I could be wrong. There are a few cams that I have consistently made over 400rwhp cam-only with, and they are relatively large. That 400rwtq will be hard with stock static compression and stock ports. I'm less optimistic about that.
Things were a little odd for me getting started tuning, the first 4-5 cars I did were all FI. The first N/A car I ever tuned was one that Mike built the engine for... 40X" stroker, AFR 225 heads, Comp 24x/25x cam, Fast90/90. The converter was loose and wouldn't lock on the dyno and it caused very very low dyno numbers. First pass though, on stock 17" TA wheels and drag radials, new setup with no adjustments, leaving off idle, the car ran 11.0x @ 125! Here we are years later and that car is still running strong and from what I hear, still regularly ruining 4l60s.
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04-16-2008, 03:03 AM #7
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Well, I dropped the car off last night. I should have it back Friday night or Saturday. I don't think I was this interested in the proceedings when I went to settlement on my house.
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04-16-2008, 03:06 AM #8
it's exciting for sure. You're gonna be blown away when you get the car back. You'll have the eternal grins for a few weeks.
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04-16-2008, 04:35 PM #9
Have to start throwing some suspension parts at it next!!!
2018 Tahoe - Silver - OEM
2008 Z06 - Velocity Yellow - BBE exhuast - Airaid CAI **sold**
2002 Z06 - Electron Blue Metallic - D1 - E85 - 701 rwhp 687 rwtq **sold**
2002 Z28: M6 NBM - cam and boltons - 396rwhp 357 rwtq **sold**
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04-16-2008, 05:02 PM #10
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Thats the plan. That and to get the scratches and scrapes that it's taken over the years fixed up. Poor thing has been hit in parking lots and shit more times than I can count. I guess I just have bad luck like that.
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04-18-2008, 11:37 AM #11
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Nice numbers
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04-18-2008, 12:42 PM #12
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For all the naysayers out there...
Got a call from my mechanic while I was at work today. Car hit the dyno late this morning, did 402/397. A few HP lower than I was hoping for, but I guess that LS1 intake, as some of you suggested, was more restrictive than I thought.
I will post graphs later once I get the car home and have the graphs in hand to scan.
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04-18-2008, 12:48 PM #13
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04-18-2008, 12:52 PM #14
That's one hell of a dyno run! A/F ratio stayed perfect. I want to meet this tuner!!!!
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04-18-2008, 12:54 PM #15
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04-18-2008, 01:04 PM #16
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Well... it was going to need new tires in 2 months anyway to pass inspection... so no harm no foul there at least I guess.
As for the a/f ratio, I had the car dynoed at a different shop a few months ago to get a baseline before I did any mods, and my A/F stayed just about perfect then too. Which actually elicited a comment from the guy at the shop saying that its usually not that nice of a graph.
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04-18-2008, 10:02 PM #17
It was done for John Mclaughlin in northwest va. He unfortunately had to part with the car shortly after it was together, and I went with the soon-to-be-owner of the car to check it out. John is a great guy and put together a great ride. Actually, 22 year old girl owns this car now. Here is a pic of me driving the car at MIR
This car is begging for a 250 DP setup and a 4l80. It doesn't need anything else at all except for maybe more cage
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04-19-2008, 02:17 AM #18
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Yes, I know John. Wow, I can't believe he sold the car. That poor fellow has had his share of challenges.
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04-19-2008, 07:07 AM #19
Yeah he's a heck of a good guy, this was several years back. He has a new ride now
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04-19-2008, 07:15 AM #20
Yeah he's a heck of a good guy, this was several years back. He has a new ride now
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