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Question about heads and cam.

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    I have looked at the comp cam also. Ive always been a fan of their stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    TEST 7 1.88 7.77 11.98 117.70
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    maybe you want to call him and tell him. i'm sure it's way different driving his 03 C5 convertible over his 8 second altered dragster.

    that and using 295/35-18 BFG drag radials aren't the best choice for lowest ETs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    run the tsp V2 with the normal bolt ons and youll hit 380, and thats without heads.
    patriots are good heads for the money. they will make about 10 less h.p than AFRs.
    a 3500 stall will be perfect and totally DD.
    Ive never ridden in a car with a stall. Could I get by with a 3000-3200? Ive watched the videos and read posts about it. I know I will need one but I need to investigate that further too. Will a lower str make the converter get the car rolling along a little faster driving on the street without slipping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnhillbilly View Post
    Ive never ridden in a car with a stall. Could I get by with a 3000-3200? Ive watched the videos and read posts about it. I know I will need one but I need to investigate that further too. Will a lower str make the converter get the car rolling along a little faster driving on the street without slipping?
    a lower str will make it more sloppy.
    for example, when i bought my stall (tci streetfighter 3000) i wanted total streetabilty. the str on my stall is 2.2 1 and its tight, almost like stock.
    while that stall is a very good choice for a daily driver, i should of went with a 3500 rpm stall. a 3500 is still very streetable and would work wicked perfect with the V2 cam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    maybe you want to call him and tell him. i'm sure it's way different driving his 03 C5 convertible over his 8 second altered dragster.

    that and using 295/35-18 BFG drag radials aren't the best choice for lowest ETs.
    o.k, bad tires explains it. im having the same problem right now. im about to switch tires. these nittos keep robbing me of my 11s

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnhillbilly View Post
    I have looked at the comp cam also. Ive always been a fan of their stuff.
    just about every ls1 tuner uses comp cams.

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    Thanks to all of you, any information you'all have to offer is greatly appreciated. I really wanted to buy a 6 speed car but the car i have now popped up and when I saw it I had to have it! I will dig into stalls a little deeper in the search before I ask any questions. Thanks, Jimmy

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    torquer fucking v2 man !
    hehe mayb im a little bias cuz that what im running....but damn even with the 113 lsa i got on it it sounds mean as hell and runs like no other.....Not too radical, as long as u have a good tune ur drivibility will be straight.....
    Im making 370 rwhp with my big 3500 stall right now....
    Thats with an ls1 intake and stock pulleys.....
    Witht hat ls6 intake u would get allot more power out of it.....
    Hell if u took out all the drivetrain loss that im getting my accual motor hp would be around 460 cam only!

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    Thats great numbers Frank! Where is Hubert located and who does your tuning. I live near the Bristol Raceway in Tennessee and there are no speed shops or tuners anywhere near here that I know of.

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    Its right outside Jacksonville NC.....About 2 hours south of Raleigh
    THE BEST TUNER AVAILIBLE IS RPM RIGHT OUTSIDE RALEIGH!!!!
    That is no bullshit either man......My car was originally tuned by Jeff Creech (Carolina Automasters).....Yea he is on Pinks and yea he gets good power out of ur car....But my drivibility SUCKED.....gas miliage....SUCKED!
    I was getting 8mpg on the highway doing 55
    Also my drivibility was so bad it u could not start the car when it was alrdy hot without having to feather the gas for a min or two for it to catch its idle, if i pressed on the brakes and tured at same time without giving it gas it would die.....If I braked real fast and didnt give it gas it would also die.....
    It surged a shit ton too. Its really a pain in the ass.....

    Anyway all my problems are gone now that its tuned by RPM.....MPG is low 20's on hwy and 14-15 in city....Here's the number man....Give them a call.....They are all down to earth and will answer any question u have man....

    919-661-7947 RPM (Ryans Performance Machines)

    JUst do urself a favor and make sure u call em....yea mayb it might be a little bit of a drive for u.....but the ability to have a car like mine drive like it just came out of a dealership is priceless man........U will never know how important it is until u have to deal with a shitty tune!

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    Thanks Frank! I will keep the number in a safe place for future reference.

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    hell give em a call just to figure stuff out man......those guys will set u straight....hell the owner ryan has the 3rd fasted stock bottom end n02 ls1 in the world.....
    They have all kinds of experience and will help u on ur way to get what u really want for parts

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    I am not going to fly off the handel here but every post in this forum is what heads and cam.... DD trying to go lo 12-s or high 11's or 400 rwhp.

    Make sure you have the bolt ons first, headers, good y pipe, hi flow cats, good catback. underdrive pully, lid, filter, drag radials, min 3200 stall MIN ! tune.This is all I have sway bar off front and i'm running 11.90-12.10 every time out on a stock longblock (01)115mph no need to head/cam your engine to run 11's

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnhillbilly View Post
    Will the 224 still have a somewhat lopey idle? Who has the best 224 cam between comp and tsp?
    Comp's 224 cam has a higher lift than both the TSP and the TR 224 cams. I have the Comp224 at the moment (224/224 .581/.581 @112lsa), but will be going to a TSP 231/237 .598/.595 @112+2 lsa...

    Yes the 224 is a great all around cam and I am very pleased with how mine sounds and performs. However personal preference is i wanted to go a little bigger...

    by todays standards for LsX based enigines is that anything in the 220-228 range is a small cam. anything 230-238 is a mild cam, and anything 240 and higher is a BIG cam for an LsX enigine...

    he would be fine running a Torquer v2 cam, with not need to change lifter, or flycut the pistons (always clay test first thought). with a stall and a good tune, that cam will be just fine for him and get him very close to that 400rwhp goal...

    as for heads, i have the patriot Ls6 style stage II heads w/59cc chambers and i gained 36rwhp from the heads alone. got them brand new for 1/2 the price of AFR heads. I am very pleased with the few mods done to my car for where she sits powerwise...
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    SWt00SS, Your setup is very similar to what I want to end up with, thanks for the info.

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    SWt00SS,

    What is the difference between the Patriot Ls6 Stage 2 and the Patriot Ls1 Stage 2 heads. I have a Ls6 intake I am planning on useing. Which head will need? Thanks, Jimmy

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    neah go with the 228/288 .588/.588 114+2

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    torquer 2 ftw!

    I dyno'd @ 413/391 w/ cam only, full bolt on's minus u/d pulley. But mine is an M6 thought, but I still recommend the cam to all LS1 owners!

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