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This is a discussion on ms4 cam upgrade ?s within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; so i just ordered the ms4 cam package from texas speed and performance and it comes with the vale train ...

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    ms4 cam upgrade ?s

    so i just ordered the ms4 cam package from texas speed and performance and it comes with the vale train uprade springs retainer ex. im planning on getting the ported oil pump and a dyno tune or there any more upgrades that i will need to take in to mind or?

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    You should list mods you already have-like headers...

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    the gasket kit that TSP sells, and an oil pick-up tube gasket
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z28boy2000 View Post
    the gasket kit that TSP sells, and an oil pick-up tube gasket
    yep been hearing about that old gasket causing ticking noises

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver2002ws6 View Post
    so i just ordered the ms4 cam package from texas speed and performance and it comes with the vale train uprade springs retainer ex. im planning on getting the ported oil pump and a dyno tune or there any more upgrades that i will need to take in to mind or?

    if you're m6 you'll want to get 4.10m gears if you don't have them... a4 a 4000 stall and 3.73 gears...

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    yea im replacing all of the gaskets but what is the bore on the head gaskets i noticed texas speed and performance has like three diffrent bore sizes? the only mods i have are pacesetter long tubes lid bellow just put brand new six speed in it and of course a clutch

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver2002ws6 View Post
    yea im replacing all of the gaskets but what is the bore on the head gaskets i noticed texas speed and performance has like three diffrent bore sizes? the only mods i have are pacesetter long tubes lid bellow just put brand new six speed in it and of course a clutch
    Why you replacing head gaskets if you aren't swapping heads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c5z28 View Post
    Why you replacing head gaskets if you aren't swapping heads?
    my thoughts exactly

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    im getting them ported and polished and if i dont just so its easier to put the back spring and ret.

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    the ms4 will fit with no other modifications like flycutting right?

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    I don't think you need to cut the fly wheel with the ms4 but you diffidently need to get the hardened push rods with any cam upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver2002ws6 View Post
    the ms4 will fit with no other modifications like flycutting right?
    I would contact Texas Speed about that but you should also check piston to valve clearance with any cam install

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    cool thanks so i called texas speed and performance today its going to cost $750 for porting and polishing my 243 heads and another $400 for the dyno tune but it will be all worth it im also uprading to the ported ls6 oil pump

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    Good luck, a buddy is making 420ish at the wheels w/ that cam and a fast intake. Driven by his friend on street tires he hit high 11's.

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    You will not have to fly cut the pistons for this camshaft

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    sweet thanks guys when i get it in and dynoed i will try and post what i got

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    Flycut your pistons.

    Damn MS4's....too fucking big.

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    whos got a link to a flycutting visual aid

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    I'm thinking about getting an MS4 also. Why is it too big? What is flycutting a piston and why does it need to be done?

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    The cam pushes the limits of piston-to-valve clearance.
    Flycutting opens up small valve reliefs to add clearance.

    That cam also wants a 4000+ stall in an automatic, along with 4.10's.
    It likes 4.56's in the M6.
    All in the set-up. Those large cams can make cars fast, but not without other mods.

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