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ms3 AND STOCK LS1's

This is a discussion on ms3 AND STOCK LS1's within the Internal Engine forums, part of the LSx Technical Help Section category; sorry to break the news but its too big for any daily driven ls1 and will not be usable even ...

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    ms3 AND STOCK LS1's

    sorry to break the news

    but its too big for any daily driven ls1 and will not be usable even with full bolt ons....


    smaller cams dont make numbers but they can and 80% of the time will out run a over sized cam

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    i dont get it.........

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    my friend has an ms4 in his bird, drives fine on the street. i think its all in thetune my friend

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    my good friend dd's his MS3 no issues at all, im confused with what your saying

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    I dd my ms3 T/A and no complaints here. Dido on the tune part

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    I think he hit post thread instead of post reply

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    no im tired of seeing ppl asking about them with a stocvk car and think its bad ass to have a cam that size



    it does not work as well as a smaller cam..

    it may make more hp but @ ungodly rpm and most fo the guys asking about them have a hand held tuners and a k&n drop in


    .... my point is ppl need to look at smaller cams and they will be happer then they would with BIG UGLY STICK



    the cam i have makes 6 more hp then stock



    and u picked up over 1/2 sec and 5 mph at the strip i went from 12.9s to 12.3s and from 109 -114

    thats my point

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    Well the ms3 power band is 3 or 4 grand to 7 grand. And if I remember correctly that's where most drag races take place in. Plus mine has pretty good street manors as well so it's not that bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbirdbrain89 View Post
    no im tired of seeing ppl asking about them with a stocvk car and think its bad ass to have a cam that size



    it does not work as well as a smaller cam..

    it may make more hp but @ ungodly rpm and most fo the guys asking about them have a hand held tuners and a k&n drop in


    .... my point is ppl need to look at smaller cams and they will be happer then they would with BIG UGLY STICK



    the cam i have makes 6 more hp then stock



    and u picked up over 1/2 sec and 5 mph at the strip i went from 12.9s to 12.3s and from 109 -114

    thats my point
    This makes absolutely zero sense. Are you old enough to drive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBracing1222 View Post
    Well the ms3 power band is 3 or 4 grand to 7 grand. And if I remember correctly that's where most drag races take place in. Plus mine has pretty good street manors as well so it's not that bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbirdbrain89 View Post
    no im tired of seeing ppl asking about them with a stocvk car and think its bad ass to have a cam that size



    it does not work as well as a smaller cam..

    it may make more hp but @ ungodly rpm and most fo the guys asking about them have a hand held tuners and a k&n drop in


    .... my point is ppl need to look at smaller cams and they will be happer then they would with BIG UGLY STICK


    the cam i have makes 6 more hp then stock



    and u picked up over 1/2 sec and 5 mph at the strip i went from 12.9s to 12.3s and from 109 -114

    thats my point
    im still lost, people look into bigger cams to make more power. a cam swap that grants 6hp over stock isnt even worth the time to swap IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbirdbrain89 View Post
    no im tired of seeing ppl asking about them with a stocvk car and think its bad ass to have a cam that size



    it does not work as well as a smaller cam..

    it may make more hp but @ ungodly rpm and most fo the guys asking about them have a hand held tuners and a k&n drop in


    .... my point is ppl need to look at smaller cams and they will be happer then they would with BIG UGLY STICK



    the cam i have makes 6 more hp then stock



    and u picked up over 1/2 sec and 5 mph at the strip i went from 12.9s to 12.3s and from 109 -114

    thats my point
    a cam swap seems like kind of alot of work to go through for only 6HP. why did you decide to go with this perticular cam? (not meaning to be an ass, I'm just curious)

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    I have a large cam going in my car in the next few weeks. Yes I did look at all of the "smaller" cams. But for the direction I want to take the car the smaller cam in the long run would end up getting pulled quickly for a larger one. For me I don't mind loosing a lot of street-ability. Im perfectly fine with cruising around town and then when I get to the track launching at over 4k IN MY POWER BAND!

    So to the original poster the larger cams serve a purpose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackbirdbrain89 View Post
    sorry to break the news

    but its too big for any daily driven ls1 and will not be usable even with full bolt ons....


    smaller cams dont make numbers but they can and 80% of the time will out run a over sized cam
    wow... are you ever wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    wow... are you ever wrong...
    +1.



    Especially with full bolt ons...

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    just to clear another thing up incase some one reads this thread and believes the OP... larger cams require different ratio rear gears as well as a tune...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaz View Post
    just to clear another thing up incase some one reads this thread and believes the OP... larger cams require different ratio rear gears as well as a tune...
    Yes you are correct and don't forget the high lift springs and a large stall for us automatic people

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02Sweet View Post
    Yes you are correct and don't forget the high lift springs and a large stall for us automatic people

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    There's a reason big cams like the TREX and the MS3 are all over LS1Techs top 10 fastest cam only list.

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